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Old 10-16-2011, 06:33 AM   #1  
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I've been staring lustily at beautiful Japanese chiyogami papers over at LCI paper

(first of all, this is the only place I can admit to staring lustily at paper!)

Ok so... I want it. I need it. I want to touch it and fold it and do stuff to it!

But here is my dilemma. I am afraid if I order it, I will stare at it and be completely terrified of destroying it's beauty. Yes, I am the type of person who can pin a piece of beautiful paper to my wall and just adore its beauty. I have many a paper just sitting here, that I take out and admire. But then go directly to the white paper to play with.

What IS my problem? Can anyone relate? Am I completely insane?

Do you use chiyogami or any other fancy papers in your crafting? If so, how? Cardmaking? ATC's?

Can someone just push me off the cliff please?

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Oh wow. I would totally hoard that paper!!! That is gorgeous!!!!

Yes, we can all relate And you just enabled us!!

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It's gorgeous, but at that price, I say to myself, "Self, you can buy tools (dies, punches), new colorants (Copics, sprays, etc.), or several other pretty 6x6 pads."

But then again, I have a huge stock of patterned paper that if put end-to-end could probably circle the globe!
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I totally relate. I have paper that I loved - so I bought. Now if I use it, I won't have it anymore. SO I hoard.
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Starlytte, I am absolutely standing on that cliff right beside you. I too love those papers. I have managed to make a card or two but it is hard! Here is one of my efforts:

SC333 Chiyogami Sampler by Dockside - Cards and Paper Crafts at Splitcoaststampers
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That card is gorgeous and I can imagine how it looks IRL. The nice thing about that paper is that it is so vibrant and gorgeous - you don't really have to use too much to make a WOW impact
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I totally relate. I have paper that I loved - so I bought. Now if I use it, I won't have it anymore. SO I hoard.
Ditto.

Some beautiful papers are just so hard to use because "whom" is worthy to get a card with my beloved paper? lol. So I've decided to make cards for myself and display them on a giant bullentin board in my craftroom. If someone asks me who are all those cards from - I'll just say those are my examples for future cards, lol.
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Yup, me to! I do this with fabric also. What's a person to do?
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Not2shabby - what a wonderful idea!
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Oh I like this idea too - I'll be making some cards for me with my favorite hoarded paper!
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Woo! I came back this morning and you guys have been busy with the replies!

Understandblue - No, I didn't make the avatar. A friend gave it to me a very long time ago. It's actually animated, the cats eyes sparkle, but these forums (and many others) don't allow animated gifs because they are big.

Dockside - very pretty! Great idea to display the beauty of the paper.

not2shabbydesigns - I like the way you think. Surround yourself with your own art. And hey, you may find someone who is worthy of one of those cards... someday.

So it seems I am not alone in my odd behavior. That's comforting Thanks everyone. I do hope I haven't set off a mass chiyogami hoarding spree...
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Reviving this old thread. I just saw some chiyogami paper at a local art store and fell in love with the colors and patterns. Wanting to know how to adhere a piece  to a cardfront?  Do you use glue or something else. I am thinking it is pretty delicate and thin.



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Wow a 10 yr old thread. We're not old. Nah....LOLOLOL



That company is still in business BTW. 



Well if it is like rice paper I am thinking maybe collage medium? I just saw that done today in a class...they put it on both bottom and top to seal it for collage paper and isn't that thin too? 



Lydia used this matte gel with rice paper recently on her blog also both under and over. 



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Ha, yeah, oldie here, lol....I love that a company is still in business these days!



I haven't caved and bought the pack yet. It was $19.30 for a pack of 5 patterns I think it was. The package was about 6x6 or maybe a bit bigger. Very spendy! I don't want to buy it if I can't use it and easily use it too, lol.



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If it is the real thing it will be washi paper, which is thick but flexible, not at all like rice paper. A thicker grade plain white is what they use for those paper screens in traditional Japanese houses.  The colours of yuzen paper are very intense.   It is great for covering notebooks and other items because it bends when folded and doesn't crack.  And you can enjoy its beauty for longer : a card is a bit ephemeral. 



I think ordinary paper glue will be fine. The yuzen paper has a matt finish and you wouldn't seal it over the top.



I follow a Graphic 45 group on facebook and believe me, the reluctance to cut beautiful  paper is something many people feel. 

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I haven't caved and bought the pack yet. It was $19.30 for a pack of 5 patterns I think it was. The package was about 6x6 or maybe a bit bigger. Very spendy! I don't want to buy it if I can't use it and easily use it too, lol.



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It's probably sturdier than you are expecting. It's also suitable for origami, which means it stands up to folding. And the price sounds about right if it's genuine Japanese paper. I have loads of downloads from a Canon website which I used to print on Mi-teintes paper in the data when we had a decent printer, to use for backgrounds. I don't mind using that so much as the real thing, but I do also make myself use the Japanese ones we have accumulated.

I think it works well with the current or recent trend for origami style dies: I made this for the recent floating elements TLC. TLC830 Simple Hello by Cook22 at Splitcoaststampers
And there are a few other cards where I've listed it in the description. Gallery at Splitcoaststampers
Wide strips of it pieced together make a great background or small panel.

Take a glance through Glittergal's gallery, she uses it quite often. I'll link to one card, and then you can easily browse the rest of her gallery: MMTPT663 In The Pink by Glittergal at Splitcoaststampers
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So, you could make a few special cards with one sheet. Use the other sheet to make a decor item that you can hang on the wall. 8 x 8 frames or 9 x 9 frames are easily obtained.
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A couppala things:

Swoon! I can hardly breathe when I look at this amazing gorgeous paper. I want to possess it and never let it go! I totally empathize.

Plan to keep some of it! If you have a art journal, for example, you have a great place to put YOUR samples. And maybe also keep some in a “quilt” you keep by your work space.

If you have a hard time cutting into those big, gorgeous sheets, buy sets of smaller cuts. This has really helped me with using some papers that I have. It doesn’t feel like I’m chopping into a beautiful garment or defacing a large piece of artwork. You also get variety, which is fun!

I bought some large sheets of this paper from Paper Source and used one to over an altered book. The stuff is magical to work with. When it contacted the wet glue on the book, it just molded itself beautifully where I wanted to put it. It behaves a lot like fabric. It adhered to the glue perfectly without becoming saturated through to the front.

This paper is so durable, that you could use it to wrap a gift with it, and then later make something out of that wrap. Give some of the joy to a loved one (who lusts for beautiful paper as well) as “gift wrap” so they can use the “used” paper to make something wonderful as well.

if you hoard the sheets (which I always want to do) you don’t get the experience of using them, and you don’t get the joy from the anazing thing you made from them. But you can hand them (unused) down to someone else when you have to move or downsize—like my mom did. She never enjoyed using the papers she bought, because they have been carefully rolled away up in her closet for 30 years.
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I totally understand! I have Japanese linen cardstock “ageing” along with washi paper in my drawer.
I will muster up the confidence to use it someday and hope to cut it straight so I don’t beat myself up if I make a mistake.
I bought it from hanko designs. https://hankodesigns.com/product-cat...origami-paper/
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If you love the paper to look at it, buy it for that reason and frame it, hang it or make something for yourself with it. Don't get it to make cards with. If you do have a great idea for a card using it, print it out on some high quality paper or cardstock.
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I love mine, which came from a store closing out its inventory and thus came cheaply. I have used some of in an altered journal, as well as covering a journal I gave to a relative. But with hoarded papers, and this is certainly one, I just like knowing I have it and sometimes take it out and pet it. The “hand”, to use a term from fabric terms and feel, and thickness, how it moves all play into how I like a paper and why I might hoard it, beyond the pattern and color, theme, etc.
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Hanko Designs has a class on Japanese Paper Layering which uses small pieces of washing paper. The paper is adhered with white glue diluted with 4 or 5 drops of water.
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I began saving things for Best when I married and had a to-die-for nightgown with dozens of tacked on gorgeous little flowers, no doubt a nightmare to sleep in,.it made wonderful use in my grand daughters' dress-up trunk. Remembering all the items I've saved for Best has me forcing myself, at 86, to use BEST first! Such gorgeous papers , VERY hard to do. But fun!
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I began saving things for Best when I married and had a to-die-for nightgown with dozens of tacked on gorgeous little flowers, no doubt a nightmare to sleep in,.it made wonderful use in my grand daughters' dress-up trunk. Remembering all the items I've saved for Best has me forcing myself, at 86, to use BEST first! Such gorgeous papers , VERY hard to do. But fun!
Good for you! What you make with those beautiful papers will bring you joy while you are creating with them and to the person who receives them.
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I've been staring lustily at beautiful Japanese chiyogami papers over at LCI paper

(first of all, this is the only place I can admit to staring lustily at paper!)

Ok so... I want it. I need it. I want to touch it and fold it and do stuff to it!

But here is my dilemma. I am afraid if I order it, I will stare at it and be completely terrified of destroying it's beauty. Yes, I am the type of person who can pin a piece of beautiful paper to my wall and just adore its beauty. I have many a paper just sitting here, that I take out and admire. But then go directly to the white paper to play with.

What IS my problem? Can anyone relate? Am I completely insane?

Do you use chiyogami or any other fancy papers in your crafting? If so, how? Cardmaking? ATC's?

Can someone just push me off the cliff please?
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I believe we differ from the same affliction. I think it is a disease that I developed early as a child. I have always been fascinated with fine pens and papers! I tend to buy them, look at them and occasionally (dare I say) cut them and use them on projects. I love my obsession and have made peace with the fact that I will probably always collect Beautiful papers and pens!
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