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Old 09-27-2013, 07:31 PM   #1  
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Question Metallic ink Encore or Stazon?

I'm wondering if you guys tried any of these and which one you liked best. Are they a foiled look or just metallic shimmer? Thanks for all your input.
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I've used the Encore ones for years. I don't think I've ever used them without also heat-embossing, though. They seem to stay wet and smudge forever otherwise. So obviously that changes the look. Maybe somebody else can offer more helpful advice!
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I don't think I can discern foiled vs. metallic shimmer so I won't try but I will give you my opinion re: Stazon-On vs. Encore and I'll throw in info about an AWESOME gold ink - most beautiful results I've ever gotten plus a good word for another brand, so here goes.........

Encore NEVER dries lol and smudges so if you don't emboss, 'forgedaboudit'. I've had this for years and I finally abandoned using it.

If you want gold and the surface is porous, Delicata is my favorite gold ink - dries fast and it's really beautiful - check it out (it's sold in other places, I just happen to know EH carries it):
Delicata Ink Pad, Golden Glitz

I think Brilliance inks do a nice job in both gold and silver.

If you have non-porous surfaces, then I'd go with Staz-On.

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I've used the Encore ones for years. I don't think I've ever used them without also heat-embossing, though. They seem to stay wet and smudge forever otherwise.
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Encore NEVER dries lol and smudges so if you don't emboss, 'forgedaboudit'. I've had this for years and I finally abandoned using it.
Perhaps it depends on the paper? I used the pink and the green on parchment paper this year and it dried pretty quickly on its own and didn't smudge with no heat setting (and I *think* I've used it on Georgia Pacific, too, but can't recall for sure).
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All the StazOn colors I have dry with a flat finish.
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I've used Encore for years and never had to heat set it.
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Perhaps it depends on the paper? I used the pink and the green on parchment paper this year and it dried pretty quickly on its own and didn't smudge with no heat setting (and I *think* I've used it on Georgia Pacific, too, but can't recall for sure).
It might be more humidity rather than the paper. I've tried the Encore gold and silver on all sorts of surfaces and never found that it dried.


I do agree that the Brilliance colours are great - they take time to dry, but at least they do!! I'd definitely describe them as a metallic shimmer.
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Encore is a pigment ink, meant for heat embossing with embossing powder, so generally will not dry, except on a very porous paper, without heat setting. Most Gold/Silvers are pigment inks, and generally will always need heat setting. Never tried the Staz-on, I tried the opaque colours, and didn't really like them, so I haven't bothered with the gold/silver. Try having a look on the makers site, they usually have FAQ's that will cover what you need to know.
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Thanks for all your input. I did research the company web sites and found they weren't very helpful but you guys on the other hand VERY helpful. I'm going to go with the Delicata Ink Pad, Golden Glitz.
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I've used Encore for years and never had to heat set it.
Me, too! I prefer Encore gold if I'm not heat embossing. I have found it dries on most everything.....regular cardstock and vellum.
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I've used the Encore ones for years. I don't think I've ever used them without also heat-embossing, though. They seem to stay wet and smudge forever otherwise. So obviously that changes the look. Maybe somebody else can offer more helpful advice!
I've had the same experience as Sabrina on both gold and silver Encore inks. Encore metallic inks have never fully dried for me either.

I like to stamp with gold or silver on the inside of the card and found that if you do not emboss with clear embossing powder that the gold or silver will imprint on the left side of the card's inside. I would prefer to emboss with gold or silver embossing powder but even that will leave an imprint on the left side of the card. Whenever I do emboss with gold or silver embossing powder, I put a 4" X 5" sheet of thin tissue paper (think wedding invitations) inside so the ink or embossing powder won't spoil the other side of the card.

Since other people have not experienced this problem with the Encore metallic inks, I should also point out that I've had my ink pads for a very long time and perhaps there have been changes in the ink formula that I've not been made aware. I do love the brilliance of my Encore inks but I'm careful how I use them.
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I use every metallic color Encore makes and love it. If I don't want to emboss it, I just heat set it and have no problem with it drying and not smearing. Mine are quite old and I have reinked them several times over the years. I got rid of all my Brilliance because it dried too quickly or didn't make a good impression in the first place. Keep in mind I live in the high desert where the humidity is mostly in the teens. HTH
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Delicata is fantastic!
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You won't be sorry with the Delicata. It's awesome.
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I love my Delicata ink as well. I wish they would come out with other colors like silver, copper and bronze.
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Interesting ... I went to Ellen Hutson's website to see the Delicata ink and reinker, and it says they're made by Tsukineko. In the hopes of getting some more information, I went to the Tsukineko site. Delicata is not listed with their other pigment inks Tsukineko - high quality inks and inkpads for your crafting projects, and a search for "Delicata" comes up empty. Now I'm wondering if Delicata is still being made; if so, then by what company; and where else it might be available. (I have nothing against Ellen Hutson, but a local option would be helpful.)
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You'll find Delicata listed in New Products. It is odd, that it doesn't show up in a search of the site.

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Just for the record, if you are looking for a fast drying gold, silver or copper marker, I just found them at Staples. They really work well and they dry instantly and look good.
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Just for the record, if you are looking for a fast drying gold, silver or copper marker, I just found them at Staples. They really work well and they dry instantly and look good.
Can you give us the brand name, or some hint as to what they are called? We actually have a Staples only 15 miles away.
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Interesting ... I went to Ellen Hutson's website to see the Delicata ink and reinker, and it says they're made by Tsukineko. In the hopes of getting some more information, I went to the Tsukineko site. Delicata is not listed with their other pigment inks Tsukineko - high quality inks and inkpads for your crafting projects, and a search for "Delicata" comes up empty. Now I'm wondering if Delicata is still being made; if so, then by what company; and where else it might be available. (I have nothing against Ellen Hutson, but a local option would be helpful.)
Hi Alice in MD,

Here's the link to the Delicata ink on the Tsukineko website.

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I purchased Delicata at Joanne's with a coupon. I like it so much that I have four of them...I guess I was thinking group stamping!
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Can you give us the brand name, or some hint as to what they are called? We actually have a Staples only 15 miles away.
Sorry about that! They are the Sharpie fine point markers. I use Sharpies in addition to my Copics and Spectrum Noir markers. Wish they made them in extra fine point!
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Thank yu very much for your quick reply.
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I have the stazon metallic in silver and colorbox in silver. I just compared the two now, and to me the colors look identical.

I tried stamping another image to compare them again, and my stazon pad is super sticky almost like glue. I think I read somewhere you have to re-ink it every time you use it, which I don't like so much. I will stick with color box since I have had that pad for years and have not reinked it yet.

I haven't tried the Delicta, but I have heard good things on other sites about it too.
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I think I read somewhere you have to re-ink it every time you use it, which I don't like so much. I will stick with color box since I have had that pad for years and have not reinked it yet.

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That was my issue with the opaque colours that Staz-on came out with- white/pale blue/pink etc. Every time I want to use them you need to re- ink, and they are very sticky feeling. So much so, one of the clear lids actually stuck to the pad & damaged it when I pulled it off. I love the Encore inks, very rarely have to re-ink them.
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