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I got RAK'ed a bunch of great images to color in and got started on some of them over the weekend. I noticed that the ink bleeds outside of the colored in lines on some of the images. I fixed some of them with the colorless blender but couldn't salvage some.
Anyone know why this happens and what I can do to avoid it in the future?
__________________ Kathy
Proud Mama to Mason 4/3/99, Miles 5/25/02, and Maya 8/26/04
It depends on what kind of ink the image is stamped with. If I'm not mistaken when colouring with Copics or other alchohol markers, the image needs to be stamped with either Black Palette Hybrid Ink or Brillance Black Ink.
The ink is the problem. Try Adirondak(no heat setting needed) or Brilliance(need to heat set). Stazon will bleed with copics. Although stazon is the best for watercoloring. Adirondak and Brilliance will not work with watercoloring. HTH!
I thought the ink was a problem because the black would smear. On the images I colored, the black didn't smear but the Copic ink bled outside of the black lines.
__________________ Kathy
Proud Mama to Mason 4/3/99, Miles 5/25/02, and Maya 8/26/04
I thought the ink was a problem because the black would smear. On the images I colored, the black didn't smear but the Copic ink bled outside of the black lines.
If I've used watercolor paper, I've had the color I'm using bleed outside the black line of the stamped image. It looks similar to what yours looks like. I just tried a different paper and got much better results (which I know doesn't help in your case since someone else stamped the images for you).
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I've been using Adirondak ink and have had the same problem. (Not as severely as what kathat posted, but still noticable.) I'm using regular white cardstock (Papertrey white mostly, but another brand sometimes too) and my copics bleed outside of the lines. Could it be the cardstock?
I'm thinking it's the paper - probably really absorbent so the color sucked right into the paper and went everywhere.
I agree with you, just based on my limited experience with them. I like using GP cardstock because it does soak in more and so I color a little away from my ink line. When I use PTI paper, it is not as porous (is that a good way to describe paper?! LOL) and I can color right up to the line.
I used Fiskars paper once when I was playing and that REALLY spread the color out.
When playing with a friend's Copics I experienced the same thing. We used Adirondack Pitch Black, so that wasn't the issue. We did find that if we used the colorless blender and didn't allow it to dry enough, then went back and colored some more, that the color would seep into the area where we had used the colorless blender.
Kathy, it sounds like (and looks like) it is the paper and not the ink. If the image was stamped in StazOn ink it would smear and the black ink would bleed. But it looks fine. I think the paper itself absorbed the ink and it went outside the line. Watercolor paper will do that...and other papers that are made to take up a lot of color. Try GP cardstock or even Paper Accents Pearlized white...
Hugs!
__________________ Colleen Schaan - Education Specialist at Imagination International Inc.,/Copic Marker
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Have any of you found it a problem if you color your image THEN do the grey shadow line OR do the gray shadow line first then the image. I know when I work with my pencils/gamsol that the shadow needs to come first so you don't drag image color into the shadow. I'm just learning with the copics so am wondering if the first way would cause any bleeding.
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Have any of you found it a problem if you color your image THEN do the grey shadow line OR do the gray shadow line first then the image. I know when I work with my pencils/gamsol that the shadow needs to come first so you don't drag image color into the shadow. I'm just learning with the copics so am wondering if the first way would cause any bleeding.
I shadow last and have not had a problem with bleeding.
Hey guys, I just got my 1st copic & went back to some cards I had made a while back. The copic is flesh toned so I wanted to go back & color my bellas skin. Anyways, I used archival whisper ink in black to stamp the images & that def isn't the problem. I'm sure it's the paper. I've seen people talking about GP paper (georgia pacific) & I'd really like to give it a shot. Any ideas where I can get it? I've never seen it @ Joanns, Michaels or AC Moore... is this something I'd need to pick up @ Office Max?? If someone could please help me out today I'd greatly appreciate it since I'd like to look for it tomorrow after work.
I have been struggling with this too. I used pallete black noir ink and that did not bleed on any of the other papers (SU was one) I tried but I got some Pt paper and now my black is bleeding too! This is sooo frustrating. I have watched the tuts, read the tuts, etc. No answers.
I ran into trouble with this too. I tried StazOn and Memories and both caused bleeding. The ink I found that works great is Marvy Matchables (square ink pad).
You just have to adjust the pressure you apply with the marker depending on the paper or cardstock. Ideally, you should use marker paper with these markers.
I also use Marker Paper - you can get it at Michael's, (or online at Dick blick or similar place) - it's Canson brand and is usually by the prisma markers and stuff. There are other brands, but that's the one I've always used. You may also see it called "layout paper". That's what these markers were "intended" to be used on. It's really thin though, so you'll probably have to back it with cardstock. Keep in mind there is a "right" side and a "wrong" side to most marker paper. The "wrong" side will not accept the marker at all - it is like writing on wax paper! Best thing is to test in a small corner with a light color to make sure you're using the right side - especially if you like to back the paper BEFORE you you color!
Oh ya, you can print on it and markers usually won't smear print lines from an inkjet printer!
I've been using Chartpak markers for years, and on occasion, Prismacolor markers. Some of my students are using Copics, and I really like them, but can't bring myself to spend $5 on one marker!
I've had the same experience with Copics and the biggest lesson I've learned when coloring with them is to 'leave some white space' between the black line and your color'. The color will eventually 'bleed' over to the line, filliing in the space perfectly. Also I use Georgia Pacific Paper found in the printer paper section at Walmart (Great paper at an affordable price) and Brillance Graphite Black Ink.
I know of a Wonderful paper that is made for markers. Its the best paper I have ever used! Its called Borden & Riley Paris Paper. It was made for rtist who use all different kinds of inks. Its so nice and bright white, its a good weight. I find it at a local Artist supply store (not craft store), however online there seems to be some good sources with good prices.Ive been out for awhile but am going to buy some next week in Seattle. Try it you WILL love it! Heres a link to a place online that had a good pic and description.