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for those that art journal, what journals do you use?I have a Strathmore mixed media 5.5x8.5" spiral bound.
A Fabriano, love the paper in this one it is about the same size, but hard bound.
and I am doing a Moleskine weekly planner with some paper inserted as tabs. This one is a facebook group with weekly challenges https://www.facebook.com/groups/thed...edlifeproject/
I'll post on here once I begin to art journal re: how these work for me.
I heard about them and liked that they lie flat, have thick pages, and there is no bleed through for really wet/messy techniques (which sounds like my style LOL).
__________________ "May your mind whirl joyful cartwheels of creativity." - Jonathan Lockwood Huie.
I use Dyan Reaveley's large and small journals, and I've also made one of my own from multimedia cardstock by Canson. I basically took the pad apart and used my Bind It All to create a spiral binding. I used the covers from the pad as the covers for my journal.
I use Dyan Reaveley's large and small journals, and I've also made one of my own from multimedia cardstock by Canson. I basically took the pad apart and used my Bind It All to create a spiral binding. I used the covers from the pad as the covers for my journal.
I have one of Dyan Reaveley's large journals (empty of course LOL), so I'll be trying that one, also. I think there are two different types of papers in Dyan's journals if I remember correctly.
__________________ "May your mind whirl joyful cartwheels of creativity." - Jonathan Lockwood Huie.
That is on my list, I would like a bigger journal and I have seen hers. I will buy it when I can get out to an LSS that is about 2 hours from here. Don't need it badly enough to pay shipping!
Right now I am using different kinds of paper and making my own book. I love Canson's Mixed Media books. I think they are my favorite currently. I will use about anything. I still love a good old fashion composition book too. I am about ready to start another one next week. I usually have like three or four art journals going on at a time.
My husband just bought me the A5 Filofax Metropol in Red for an early anniversary gift. I am waiting for it to arrive in the mail. I am turning that into an art journal too.
I have never done an art journal, although I do stand alone mixed media pieces. Do you decide ahead of time what materials/mediums you will use? Or do you choose the book first, and then decide what mediums will work best with it?
I have never done an art journal, although I do stand alone mixed media pieces. Do you decide ahead of time what materials/mediums you will use? Or do you choose the book first, and then decide what mediums will work best with it?
I choose the book, and then I use whatever media I am in the mood to use. I don't worry about what media will work best. I try it all and see what works and what doesn't. For me, the experimenting is part of the fun.
I choose the book, and then I use whatever media I am in the mood to use. I don't worry about what media will work best. I try it all and see what works and what doesn't. For me, the experimenting is part of the fun.
I'm thinking of starting with one of the small, thicker books with water color paper pages so I can use a lot of glop on them!
I have never done an art journal, although I do stand alone mixed media pieces. Do you decide ahead of time what materials/mediums you will use? Or do you choose the book first, and then decide what mediums will work best with it?
Definitely book first and then the mediums. I don't think I have ever done a book where I decided on the mediums first. That was a really good question.
I'm thinking of starting with one of the small, thicker books with water color paper pages so I can use a lot of glop on them!
I have not tried them but a lot of my friends love the small moleskin journals. I know to all the AJ's out there that are thinking "You haven't used a moleskin yet?" I know shocking! You can get gorgeous moleskins at Barnes & Noble, Target, WalMart. I heard Michael's has them now but I haven't seen them at my Michaels. For watercoloring you want one of the moleskins with thicker pages.
Michael's in the art department has some really nice watercolor journals for around $9 without a coupon. Nice thick pages for watercoloring. Some of the WalMarts have the smaller Mixed Media journals on clearance right now.
I have not tried them but a lot of my friends love the small moleskin journals. I know to all the AJ's out there that are thinking "You haven't used a moleskin yet?" I know shocking! You can get gorgeous moleskins at Barnes & Noble, Target, WalMart. I heard Michael's has them now but I haven't seen them at my Michaels. For watercoloring you want one of the moleskins with thicker pages.
Michael's in the art department has some really nice watercolor journals for around $9 without a coupon. Nice thick pages for watercoloring. Some of the WalMarts have the smaller Mixed Media journals on clearance right now.
Hope that helps.
That is helpful --thanks so much. Michael's is walking distance from me, and I'll check out their watercolor journals.
I'm just starting out, but I am using the Strathmore mixed media spiral bound, the smaller size. I have a larger size as well, but I got the smaller one in a class I took, and I figure right now the smaller size page is a little less intimidating to me.
I did get a good idea from reading other responses. I have a few nicer notebooks that I'm always a bit hesitant to use up. :rolleyes: So I can use these for my grocery/to do lists and once they are filled up, I can go back and gesso/paint over my lists, glue pages together if necessary, and turn them art journals and I get to keep the pretty notebooks permanently.
I want to try art journaling and have been trying to decide on a journal to use. Those of you that already do this do you find yourselves doing a lot of double pages and if so does the spiral separation bother you.
I keep watching Vicky Papaioannou on YouTube and she does all two page ones. She uses a Moleskeine. I love her pages.
A lot of the other videos that I watch use spirals or handmade journals.
I hate the whole trying to figure out how to get started on a new craft and what supplies to buy.
__________________ Suzanne "Wear fabulous underwear even if you are the only person that is going to see it"
I'm just starting out, but I am using the Strathmore mixed media spiral bound, the smaller size. I have a larger size as well, but I got the smaller one in a class I took, and I figure right now the smaller size page is a little less intimidating to me.
I did get a good idea from reading other responses. I have a few nicer notebooks that I'm always a bit hesitant to use up. :rolleyes: So I can use these for my grocery/to do lists and once they are filled up, I can go back and gesso/paint over my lists, glue pages together if necessary, and turn them art journals and I get to keep the pretty notebooks permanently.
I love notebooks, blank journals and anything with pages. I am such a book/journal junkie it is insane. I love beautiful journals with the gorgeous covers. I collect them like girls over here collect stamps. A lot of my journals have been empty for years. I carefully removed the covers and removed the paper. I used the covers to bind my own journal paper. I use the paper to make other journals. I mix and match paper. Sometimes you get beautiful lined paper in linen. Other times you get pink paper with seashells. I have a large box of found paper. I reach in there and grab what ever inspires me at the time.
You know ever since this new mixed media forum has started up I sound like I am a hoarder, lol. I save my magazines, I save my journals, I save this and that. I am not a hoarder. I do save a lot of paper ephemera for my journals. It has become my biggest and most treasured crafting supply. When you start journaling all those pretty paper ephemera become a treasure trove. For the past few years I have been concentrating on rubber stamping and die cutting. It just didn't feel right to me the way I was doing it. I decided to go back to my first love- art journaling. I culled my room so I could make room for my art journaling things. Now, I have less stuff than when I bought things.
I like the paper texture and weight and the size was not overwhelming so I did not fill compelled to fill an entire 9x12 or 12x12 page. It was perfect for a beginner.
I really like this one even though I know it is just marketing to call it a "visual" journal!
I actually forgot that I started with the 7x10 size until I happened to come across one of my first journals recently. I was stunned at how manageable the pages were and how much I liked the look of my work on those pages. Recently I decided that since I have been using more gesso, I really did not need a 140 lb journal and I prefer the smaller page sizes so I am back to what I used in the beginning- the Canson 7x10 multi-media pad!
I have not tried moleskin because they are expensive. I think the Dyan Reavley journals are overpriced for what you get ( and it strikes me as yet another attempt by Ranger Inc. to come late to a party and ‘own the market)
BTW, I only posted the amazon links to provide a quick visual. Amazon does NOT have the best pricing on those journals. You are better off trying an online retailer like dickblick, jerry's or cheap joes or using a coupon at at one of the big box craft stores.
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toodme- I like your Amazon anology. I am always linking Amazon or JoAnn's too. Never dawned on me that somebody might think I just found them the best price. I just using those two sites because they are the largest for craft supplies. I am going to start using your disclaimer.
Smash books have printed papers and are spiral bound. The journals have heavy paper and don't have a spiral binding. I have 3 of them (for classes), and I like them for the most part. The only thing I don't like is that there are both manila and white paper in them. I would rather have only one type. My favorite paper to use is still the mixed media paper that Canson makes, but I'm really enjoying reading about what everyone else uses. Lots of options.
I want to try art journaling and have been trying to decide on a journal to use. Those of you that already do this do you find yourselves doing a lot of double pages and if so does the spiral separation bother you.
I keep watching Vicky Papaioannou on YouTube and she does all two page ones. She uses a Moleskeine. I love her pages.
A lot of the other videos that I watch use spirals or handmade journals.
I hate the whole trying to figure out how to get started on a new craft and what supplies to buy .
Suzanne, I am in the same boat as you. I want to try this but have no idea where and how to start. I will have to check out the youtube videos you mentioned and see if that helps.
I have start taking a mixed media class and that is different than what I have ever done. I am really enjoying it and am so glad that they set up this new forum and am so busy taking notes on what everyone has to say.
Cindy
Suzanne, I am in the same boat as you. I want to try this but have no idea where and how to start. I will have to check out the youtube videos you mentioned and see if that helps.
I have start taking a mixed media class and that is different than what I have ever done. I am really enjoying it and am so glad that they set up this new forum and am so busy taking notes on what everyone has to say.
Cindy
Cindy where are you taking classes? Locally or online?
__________________ Suzanne "Wear fabulous underwear even if you are the only person that is going to see it"
What I love about journaling is that for the most part, I used the same supplies I used for stamping! As I got more into it, I added more products ( of course! ) but for the most part you dont need to gut extra stuff. You could start with inexpensive craft paints from joann's or micheals ( $1 or less) and have plenty of colors to choose from. You could dilute those with water to make your own spray paints. If you are like me you already had stencils in your stash from when they were popular years ago. You probably already have stamps and at least one archival or staz on ink pad. You may have embossing or molding paste. You likely have embossing powder and a heat gun. You can get inexpensive oil pastels ( if you choose to use them) for or less than $5. You already have pens and markers.
The only things I would recommend that you purchase that I did not use much in stamping: inexpensive disposable latex or vinyl rubber gloves ( it gets messy!) a decent multipurpose paintbrush and some baby wipes.
I recommend youtube before buying any classes. There is a ton of info out there for free and many of those videos are as good as or better than the paid content. Do not feel you have to pay for a class to get great instruction as this is absolutely not true! One really talented journalers on youtube that comes to mind is staybeautiful88 but there are tons of others on blogs or other websites!
Smash books have printed papers and are spiral bound. The journals have heavy paper and don't have a spiral binding. I have 3 of them (for classes), and I like them for the most part. The only thing I don't like is that there are both manila and white paper in them. I would rather have only one type. My favorite paper to use is still the mixed media paper that Canson makes, but I'm really enjoying reading about what everyone else uses. Lots of options.
I am a Smashbooker fanatic. I did almost write down that the only difference I could see on Smash books was the paper difference. The covers remind me of Smash books. The big envelope inside reminded me of Smash books except Smash has prettier envies. ;) I am a sucker for those silly envelopes. Sorry if I offended anyone about Dyan's books or confused anybody.
Here's another YouTuber I love for videos- ShannonGreen- https://www.youtube.com/user/byShannonGreen She does more JunqueJournaling. She has so many great ideas. I have another one from Australia I really love but YouTube has ate some of my video subscriptions. I am going to have to find her again for you all.
Thanks everyone for staybeautiful's channel. Looks like another treasure trove video weekend watching for me. I love she does polymer clay. I think I got more excited about her polymer clay vids than her art journaling. I love polymer clay.
I'm just getting started so I'm not sure how I'll like it, but I bought a Canson XL series for mixed media. It is 5.5" x 8.5" & has 95 lb paper.
Also I saw someone on another site using a black journal. and thought i have one of those hiding around here somewhere. So I dug it out & am using it with my metalic pencils. It is 5.5"x7.5". I don't have a clue where it's from.
I'll report back as I go along & try out different medias, how they hold up.
When I first started journaling the idea of a brand new expensive journal was too intimidating for me. I would sit and stare at the blank page and just freeze up. A friend suggested using a basic notebook, something like you buy your kids for school. You can cover the pages with tissue paper or other light weight paper using YES glue or other glue that will dry smooth. Then add layers and embellishments to complete your journal. It may not be as impressive as the specialty journals, but it is a great way to loosen up and get started.
Some of my favorite art journals are cheap notebooks. I am stocking up right now. I love to journal in those kind of books.
I think there is a lot of pressure on new art journalers to buy a beautiful new expensive journal. That is so much pressure looking at that expensive book and worrying your going to mess up. I agree about the cheap notebooks for loosening up and getting started.
Ellesart - congrats on getting over "blank page" syndrome!
I unearthed an empty spiral bound scrapbook that has never been used, I think I now have my travel journal without spending any $$$. It is 5 x 7" in size and has 80lb coverstock pages, the pages are off white but that is okay with me.
Great topic! I have struggled with this myself for years. When I started, I did everything on loose pages. I am MESSY. Plus I was thinking of it as more mixed media and not necessarily JOURNALING as in a book.. Then as I started getting to know more mixed media artists and sites and checking out blogs I felt alot of pressure to get an actual journal BOOK to work in so I started with the one labeled Mixed Media in Michaels. Well I was not happy with the paper - wasn't thick enough for all the glopping I tend to do so I kept searching and buying books and trying non spiral bound and spiral bound and finally got a Stillman and Birn book - ok several S&B books - and they are my fave. I feel like the only art journaler alive who is not using and has never used a moleskin OR a Dyan Reaveley book.
All that being said I was still not happy. Because I am MESSY and I always mess up other pages when working on current pages so I finally gave up and went back to loose leaf recently and took the pressure of myself to do a book like everyone else. So what I am doing now - I found an old old 8" x 8" scrapbook album, the kind that you take apart - the front and back covers and page protectors all come apart. So I am making 8 x 8 pages, I can also do some mixed media on the front and back covers and then as I finish pages I stick them into the page protectors so I don't even have to punch holes in them.
Great topic! I have struggled with this myself for years. When I started, I did everything on loose pages. I am MESSY. Plus I was thinking of it as more mixed media and not necessarily JOURNALING as in a book.. Then as I started getting to know more mixed media artists and sites and checking out blogs I felt alot of pressure to get an actual journal BOOK to work in so I started with the one labeled Mixed Media in Michaels. Well I was not happy with the paper - wasn't thick enough for all the glopping I tend to do so I kept searching and buying books and trying non spiral bound and spiral bound and finally got a Stillman and Birn book - ok several S&B books - and they are my fave. I feel like the only art journaler alive who is not using and has never used a moleskin OR a Dyan Reaveley book.
All that being said I was still not happy. Because I am MESSY and I always mess up other pages when working on current pages so I finally gave up and went back to loose leaf recently and took the pressure of myself to do a book like everyone else. So what I am doing now - I found an old old 8" x 8" scrapbook album, the kind that you take apart - the front and back covers and page protectors all come apart. So I am making 8 x 8 pages, I can also do some mixed media on the front and back covers and then as I finish pages I stick them into the page protectors so I don't even have to punch holes in them.
Add me to the MoleSkine and Dyan club. I have never used their journals and I am not going too. So there! ROFL!
I like to do messy journals too. Loose leaf is best for me when I am making those type of journals or a book that can be trashed like an old notebook.
I started art journaling in the 1990's, way before it was popular and ten billion rules. I was always practicing on scrap paper art techniques. I thought my papers that I practiced on were as pretty as my final result. I started binding my pages and making little journals out of them. Then I would work in my little journals or just leave the pages be and admire them. I also got to combine my huge love of book binding too.
I like loose leaf the best because I can combine different types of paper.
I know I journal quirky. Apparently I break all the rules. I would probably be kicked out of workshops.
Great topic! I have struggled with this myself for years. When I started, I did everything on loose pages. I am MESSY. Plus I was thinking of it as more mixed media and not necessarily JOURNALING as in a book.. Then as I started getting to know more mixed media artists and sites and checking out blogs I felt alot of pressure to get an actual journal BOOK to work in so I started with the one labeled Mixed Media in Michaels. Well I was not happy with the paper - wasn't thick enough for all the glopping I tend to do so I kept searching and buying books and trying non spiral bound and spiral bound and finally got a Stillman and Birn book - ok several S&B books - and they are my fave. I feel like the only art journaler alive who is not using and has never used a moleskin OR a Dyan Reaveley book.
All that being said I was still not happy. Because I am MESSY and I always mess up other pages when working on current pages so I finally gave up and went back to loose leaf recently and took the pressure of myself to do a book like everyone else. So what I am doing now - I found an old old 8" x 8" scrapbook album, the kind that you take apart - the front and back covers and page protectors all come apart. So I am making 8 x 8 pages, I can also do some mixed media on the front and back covers and then as I finish pages I stick them into the page protectors so I don't even have to punch holes in them.
Marti..which series do you like the best? I have seen those recommended by a few other artists. I have an old sketchbook I use but the pages are so thin I have to either put some old thick dp on it or glue a couple together in order to do anything messy in it. I like a good thick paper..even for drawing.
TIA!