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Old 08-28-2006, 08:50 PM   #1  
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Default Contemplating becoming a Demo....

but my last hurdle to think through is the tax implications.

How do you handle tax time? Do you have a separate account that only deals with your SU! stuff? Do you keep supplies separate for your use and workshop use? What kind of write offs do you take as far as property and expenses?

I love the idea of making money having fun with my friends...and making new friends to have fun with!! I'm just wanting to make sure that my type A personality side can be calmed and allow my type B personality side buy my demo kit!!

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There are all sorts of templates on the demo side that will help you be organized. I have worked with my tax preparer and basically I am able to write most everything off as a buiness expense. I am mostly a hobby demo and only sell to family and close friends. If you start making some good money, then you would have to make sure you talk to your tax guy/gal and he/she will guide you.
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I'm a hobby demo, but I have one drawer in my filing cabinet with just business stuff. Just make sure to have detailed records, and keep track of everything, and tax time won't be too stressfull. And there's forums on the demo side where you can ask questions or look up the answers to questions. HTH
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thanks for the replies...I know that they are questions that are better served talking to an accountant...but I was just wondering what the tax liability is to the family...

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thanks for the replies...I know that they are questions that are better served talking to an accountant...but I was just wondering what the tax liability is to the family...

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my goal is somewhere in between...I dont' want to be simply a hobbyist...but I don't want to be all stamping all the time either....I enjoy it too much..and I'm afraid if I make it too much like work then I won't like it anymore.
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I am looking for someone to give this info too. I have had my own business for many years (gymnastics business). As a hobby demo, or even just a demo that makes just the minimum in sales, it would seem to me that you would be taking a loss nearly every year.

Questions I wish someone would answer:
1) Do you have a tax id other than your social security number?
2) Do you receive a 1099 from Stampin Up?
3) Do any of you loose money on a regular basis and not get auditted by the IRS? (Red flags can go up after a loss for three consecutive years.)

Thanks to anyone that can help us trying to decide besides saying "talk to your rep". I have had many reps over the years, and some are more helpful than others.
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I am looking for someone to give this info too. I have had my own business for many years (gymnastics business). As a hobby demo, or even just a demo that makes just the minimum in sales, it would seem to me that you would be taking a loss nearly every year.

Questions I wish someone would answer:
1) Do you have a tax id other than your social security number?
2) Do you receive a 1099 from Stampin Up?
3) Do any of you loose money on a regular basis and not get auditted by the IRS? (Red flags can go up after a loss for three consecutive years.)

Thanks to anyone that can help us trying to decide besides saying "talk to your rep". I have had many reps over the years, and some are more helpful than others.
1) I have no tax id number
2) I do not receive a 1099...we get monthly activity statements that show our earnings, workshops, demo orders, etc...I give these to my tax guy...
3) I lost money the first year, made money (a whopping $400) my second year.

As for what it will cost you in taxes, I've never had to pay in (neither has my upline who does 6-8 workshops a month). When I had a loss, I actually saved on my city and federal taxes b/c the loss is a writeoff. When I had a gain I didn't have to pay in b/c of the amount of things I wrote off. I think you're only allowed to claim a loss for 3 years and then they consider it a hobby and not a business.

The tax thing worried me a little when I decided to be a demo...but it was a lot of worrying for nothing. As someone already said, as long as you keep good records, you will be fine. I don't claim any of my household bills and stuff even though I have a "stamping only" space b/c my tax guy figured up the amount I would get and it wasn't that much...plus he told me that that's one of the easiest ways to get audited b/c a lot of people abuse the "business workspace" thing.

I think you'll find that if you want to look at it as a business, it won't take long before you're carefully watching what you've spent vs. what you've brought in and adjust your purchases. At first I would buy buy buy...but I found I wasn't making anything and have learned to tailor my purchases to get maximum benefit for minimum cost to me.

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BTW, I do about 2-3 workshops a month...not too awful busy...and not always doing business stamping...I have time to enjoy stamping my own things too...and I've been able to make a little cash...not a hobby, but not full on business only...
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Thank you Courtney...those are the types of answers that I was really looking for...I know that there is a wealth of information to be had once you BECOME a demo...but I really want to know what I'm looking at BEFORE I give a commitment to the whole thing KWIM??
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