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I think it will be costly to print out the papers. If you are a digital scrapper, then you'll have some beautiful choices to work with. I think that would be nice. I wonder if the wave is to go more digital for scrapbooking?
Funny thing is I began with digital scrapping and changed to hands on, because I decided I missed the feel, touch, and all the cool dimensions. Also, I love to shop (shhhhhhhhhhh).
So Basic Grey is no longer doing printed paper? HUGE mistake, if it's true. I've never done digi work, don't know if I ever will. I have, however, bought their paper for all kinds of projects, including cards, scrapping, and bookbinding.
I think they are offering digital in addition to their other merchandise. I think it is a smart move as many people do like to scrap digitally (and I LOVE Basic Grey).
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I'm not too big on digital images or printing my own designer paper for a couple of reasons.
1. Cost of ink. I already spend a lot more on ink than the average person because I use my printer for work (I work from home).
2. The ink my printer uses smears easily. Even if I just lick my finger in order to sort through a pile of papers, the ink will smear under that finger (and it's not like I slobber on it. :p)
3. I like cardstock weight paper even for my patterned papers, but my printer will jam if I use paper that is too thick.
OK, that's 3 reasons. LOL!
I can't imagine that Basic Grey would go completely digital, so I'm not worried at this point.
Oh, I sure hope Basic Grey doesn't go completely digital...for the same reasons as the poster above, I can't see myself printing my own patterned paper....
While I love Basic Grey papers, I wouldn't be attracted by a digital option myself. Good ink and good card to print on wouldn't make it cost effective compared to buying a pad. Plus the already mentioned point of inks not always being water (or even damp-hand)-proof But I know people who do digi-scrapping, and I can see how great it would be for them. And there are some of the old retired lines that, if they brought them out in digi, I would consider.
Oh I'd love this actually, lol! I've recently been really into hybrid! I've done a few cards with printed digi papers and it works wonderfully! I don't print out SO much that ink cost would really bother me and I layer this printed paper on real cardstock so the weight doesn't bother me either I love the option because you have an endless supply! No more hoarding my papers, lol!
They're offering newer lines in paper only, older lines in digital and will add to the digital ones over time.
I don't find it costs more for me to print my own papers than buy them. It's less expensive in fact. But mainly I like the choice I have with digital to choose my own medium for printing a design - cardstock, paper, vellum or fabric.
I have stacks and stacks of papers. And a computer full of digital papers too. I love all of them
Nothing will take the place of real designer paper for me....
and I agree with Ella Jane.
But then, it is known I am not a fan of digi.
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Originally Posted by Ella Jane
I'm not too big on digital images or printing my own designer paper for a couple of reasons.1. Cost of ink. I already spend a lot more on ink than the average person because I use my printer for work (I work from home).
2. The ink my printer uses smears easily. Even if I just lick my finger in order to sort through a pile of papers, the ink will smear under that finger (and it's not like I slobber on it. :p)
3. I like cardstock weight paper even for my patterned papers, but my printer will jam if I use paper that is too thick.
OK, that's 3 reasons. LOL!
I can't imagine that Basic Grey would go completely digital, so I'm not worried at this point.
I've used digital on occasion, but the colors never seem as bright as the real thing. I can buy sheets on sale for much less that it would cost to print them.
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I've used digital on occasion, but the colors never seem as bright as the real thing. I can buy sheets on sale for much less that it would cost to print them.
Same for me. What gets out from my printed is never what is shown on the screen . Most of the time I'm dissapointed. Furthermore my printer prints only A4 paper.
Even if I use digital papers it's combined with real stuff. I need to feel the paper, the ribbons and so on. Only digital is not for me.
Just hope Basic Grey will carry on their non digital papers.
I love Basic Grey but would hate to print out the papers. For one reason I have a Laser Black printer and can only use 8 1/2 X 11. For scrapping I would want 12X12.
I sure hope they keep selling the D.P.
I am assuming they are simply trying to accommodate fans of their line that are more digitally or hybrid oriented, addition to their traditional paper crafter fans. UKWIM?
I don't scrapbook traditionally any more; tried it, and don't like it at all. So, I scrapbook digitally now, if/when I do.
I buy a lot of their patterned papers for card and other project making--Love 'em! Would never want the only option to be printing them out on my inkjet printer.
But, I seriously doubt they'll go "digi only", but that's because I can't figure out why it would make good business set to go digi only, given the tremendous popularity of their non-digital products. ;)
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Uh oh....I am such a sucker for digital anymore, because I'm unable to get patterned paper here, and also with a digital download I don't have to wait 2 months for my paper to get here bent....I can get a variety of textured and even pearlescent cardstocks and ink.... but I think I have blown my budget this month already....anyway.....thanks for sharing the link!
I am not interesting in Digital DP.
I bought a pack of HP brochure paper which is close to the weight of SU paper. It cost me $26 for 100 sheets ( 26� a sheet)
Add the cost of the ink and it is far more expensive that DP on sale at 4/$1.00
If companies decided to go digital to save money on printing and paper I think background stamps will be a cheaper alternative.
From what I understand people used to do that and so it would be going
back wards in stamping
I love digital papers. I also think if you include in the cost of your time and gas running around to all the different stores looking for paper and not being able to find that perfect shade you need, then digital is a bargain. Plus you never run out of it. You can print off as many sheets as you need. If you know how to use a graphics editing program, you can also change the colours of the paper to match exactly what you need (for those SU people you can match SU colours). I also find there is less waste since I only print off what I need. If I need a 2x3 square, that's all I print on a scrap piece of cardstock. For paper I use premium laser 32lb super smooth bond paper - and I use it in my ink jet. The colours come out vibrant and the paper is almost cardstock weight. I've had people comment that the paper looks store bought. And if you need another sheet and 2 in the morning, you don't need to wait till the store opens only to find they're sold out. Just my 2cents.
When I print out digital papers for use in small scrapbook pages or cards, I use Canon matte photo paper. It reminds me of SU's Whisper White, only a little heavier. Colors are vibrant and true to the digital original.
Not a digi-fan but I do love BG. I looked at their web site and I didn't see anything that would make be believe they will stop producting thier paper line. Like HRR said, "...I can't figure out why it would make good business set to go digi only, given the tremendous popularity of their non-digital products. "
I haven't used the digi-stamps I downloaded so I know I'm not going for digi-paper considering the cost of ink jet carts.
..I can't figure out why it would make good business set to go digi only, given the tremendous popularity of their non-digital products. "
If a company doesn't need to pay for the paper, ink and shipping to stores they make a larger profit. Plus they don't need a warehouse as large as they do to store tangible products. Even if only half of their sales are digital it adds to their bottom line.
If a company doesn't need to pay for the paper, ink and shipping to stores they make a larger profit. Plus they don't need a warehouse as large as they do to store tangible products. Even if only half of their sales are digital it adds to their bottom line.
I'm trying to follow, so bear with me. ;)
I have gathered that, as a general rule, digital products retail for less than their traditional counter parts. They are also reusable, as opposed to consumible; you buy it once, print it and use it as many times as you want, but, you'll never have to buy it again (unless of course, your hard drive crashes and you never backed up the digital products you purchased).
While I can see why offering digital can add to their bottom line, but, I don't follow how switching over to digital only would be a good business move, considering, as I mentioned the non-consumability of digital product, and rampant piracy in this day and age. :confused:
Unless I misunderstood what you meant. Which is entirely possible as I am easily (and often) confused. :p LOL!
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Although I am not a fan of digital images they certainly would take less space to store. I think just like unmounted stamps reduce storage space needed the digital may become more popular for the same reason.
If digital paper becomes more popular the paper manufacturers will offer heavier weight paper to print them on . Smart businesses always follow the wants and needs of their customers and offer products to fill those needs.
I'll bet Neenah paper couldn't believe their good fortune when card makers/ scrap bookers found Copics
Now we have other paper manufacturers trying to develop paper that works well with Copics
The piracy goes on with traditional stamps. People share stamps and exchange images .
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I think adding digital for those who do only digital cards/pages is smart for any company. I dont think they would ever quit making the lovely things we love though.
blessings.
Perhaps my resistance to digital paper is my lack of computer skills. Some one earlier said she can change the colors or size in a software program she has. I don't know how to do that.
If Basic Gray or another company puts out some YouTube videos on how to manipulate these digital papers ( on a a PC & a Mac) and what software is needed to do that they may convince people like me to try them.
I am willing to keep an open mind about this digital idea while clinging tightly to my traditional stamps I understand those ;)
I have gathered that, as a general rule, digital products retail for less than their traditional counter parts. They are also reusable, as opposed to consumible; you buy it once, print it and use it as many times as you want, but, you'll never have to buy it again (unless of course, your hard drive crashes and you never backed up the digital products you purchased).
While I can see why offering digital can add to their bottom line, but, I don't follow how switching over to digital only would be a good business move, considering, as I mentioned the non-consumability of digital product, and rampant piracy in this day and age. :confused:
Unless I misunderstood what you meant. Which is entirely possible as I am easily (and often) confused. :p LOL!
Julie, I'm with you on this. It just doesn't make sense considering how fickle we crafters can be. Today it's the die for product and next month we're off to something else.
Digi Only for BG just doesn't make sense considering they already have a large customer base.
It wouldn't surpise me to see a digi company grow their business to include consumable products based on their digi images.
Although I am not a fan of digital images they certainly would take less space to store. I think just like unmounted stamps reduce storage space needed the digital may become more popular for the same reason.
If digital paper becomes more popular the paper manufacturers will offer heavier weight paper to print them on . Smart businesses always follow the wants and needs of their customers and offer products to fill those needs.
I'll bet Neenah paper couldn't believe their good fortune when card makers/ scrap bookers found Copics
Now we have other paper manufacturers trying to develop paper that works well with Copics
The piracy goes on with traditional stamps. People share stamps and exchange images .
Yes! I do understand why they would offer digital as an additional option to the traditional paper products, and I do buy some digital products, but generally only for projects I plan to keep in digital format (never intend to actually print).
People were expressing concern that Basic Grey would eliminate/discontinue their actual paper products altogether, in favor of going completely digital only, and I was trying to understand why they (or any company with as popular a traditional line as they have) would go that route.
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Perhaps my resistance to digital paper is my lack of computer skills. Some one earlier said she can change the colors or size in a software program she has. I don't know how to do that.
If Basic Gray or another company puts out some YouTube videos on how to manipulate these digital papers ( on a a PC & a Mac) and what software is needed to do that they may convince people like me to try them.
I am willing to keep an open mind about this digital idea while clinging tightly to my traditional stamps I understand those ;)
I'm the same way! *chuckle* I love using my computer for so many things, but, not for card-making or paper crafting.
Someone will have to pry my stamps from my cold dead fingers some day . . . LOL!
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Julie, I'm with you on this. It just doesn't make sense considering how fickle we crafters can be. Today it's the die for product and next month we're off to something else.
Tell me about it! eek!
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Digi Only for BG just doesn't make sense considering they already have a large customer base.
It wouldn't surpise me to see a digi company grow their business to include consumable products based on their digi images.
We'll just have to keep our noses pressed to the glass, to see if that happens, I guess. Cuz, every time I think I've seen it all, I discover "Whoa, no, sistaaaah!" *chuckle*
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Looks like they are just broadening their customer base, just like the addition of fabrics to their line. *drool*.........and I dont even like to sew!! Good on them, I say.
I think its a good move for Basic Grey to add digi to their line. I will never buy digi as its not for me but for a business move its a good one to appeal to everyone.
I love BG papers - they are the main ones that I use - but my printer only prints A4 sheets so I wouldn't be able to use them for my scrapbooking. The ink cartridges for my almost 1 yr old old Canon printer are expensive so I am unlikely to print digital dp's for cardmaking especially if I would need to use the 'high quality' option which uses even more ink than my default 'standard quality' which my printer spits out.
I can understand why BG would go digital, but at this point in time, it's a much more expensive option for me and would look elsewhere for my dp (but I'm in Australia so maybe ink cartridges are cheaper in other countries?).
Looks like they are just broadening their customer base, just like the addition of fabrics to their line. *drool*.........and I dont even like to sew!! Good on them, I say.
Same here! How divine to sleep under a BG quilt! Lolly!
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I love digital and am really excited to see BG doing this. I have an HP printer and find that the cost of printing just what I need as apposed to leaving a lot of scraps is very cost effective. Also, it helps to print on photo paper not on cardstock which sucks up a lot more ink. I usually layer a lot on my projects so having the thinner photo paper isn't a problem and I get a richer more vibrant color than from cardstock.
Oh yeah, the other thing I love about digi paper is sizing down prints to card making size. So many of the scrapbooking papers have gorgeous but huge prints that aren't really appropriate for cards. But with digi you can take a large patterned, 12X12 sheet and make it 5X5 and still retain all the detail. Can you tell I am hooked?
Cat_woman
What brand of Premium 32# super smooth bond paper do you use?
What graphic program are you using to change the colors?
Maybe I can be convinced this is a better way to go LOL
Barbara
I use Domtar First Choice paper right now, but HP makes a 32lb bond paper that is comparable albeit more expensive. I use both Photoshop and Paintshop Pro X as my graphics programs. Changing colour can be as easy as changing the tone or shade of the entire paper or as intricate as selecting only certain colours or shapes to replace colours. I have also used glossy presentation paper, but don't always want shiny paper. I haven't had much luck finding matte finish presentation paper, but as soon as I do, I'll be buying like 5 packages of it 'cause its a perfect weight paper (about 45 - 50lb).
Basic Grey going Digital...What do you think?
