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Old 12-08-2009, 01:00 PM   #1  
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I have seen lots of cards and paper crafts using sheet music, esp for the holidays. I found a used Methodist Hymnal at Goodwill, and almost bought it. I started thinking it would be sacrilegious to tear up a hymnal. Am I crazy?
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You're talking to a girl who doesn't like to put another book on top of the Bible. But just look at how much more visible those pages will be on your cards & stuff?
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I wouldn't have a problem with it. Unless it had been blessed by the Pope or something!
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that sounds like a neat idea
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It's not like a hymnal is sacred or anything, so I say go for it. Just make sure you post your creations, I'd love to see them!!

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I find it hard using any book, but certainly I'd go ahead! If it's the same as my old Methodist Hymnal, it would look great on cards.
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I guess it is better than letting it rot on a shelf, isn't it?
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I found a website that has holiday sheet music you can print out. Do a search for noelnoelnoel. Sorry, I'm at work and can't remember the website or just do a search for sheet music. I printed some out and used it as a background for a singing reindeer for some of my Christmas cards.

I know that the hymnal was at Goodwill but I, myself, would let someone else tear it up but that is just me.
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I would have a hard time tearing up any book, even one I got for a quarter at a garage sale : ) Funny thread.
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I saved a stack of hymnals that were going to be thrown away at my church. Noone wanted them - even other churches. We ripped into one at my moms group for a decoupage project. I have also seen old books stacked up and tied with pretty ribbon and flowers to make a centerpiece.
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When I taught jr. high confirmation class some *mumble, mumble* years ago, one of the topics we discussed was, do United Methodists believe it is a sacrilege to put another book on top of a bible?

The answer was no; as I recall, the reason was that, though a bible contains God's Word, a bible is not God. So, while a bible is to be treated with respect, treating it as if it were God idolizes it.

Much as we Methodists love our hymns, we wouldn't consider a hymnal superior to a bible.

Now, if you *do* take pages out of an old Methodist hymnal, I think we'd hope you'd make beautiful cards with it. . . .
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humming the hymn while you removed the page would be a nice touch, too. . . .
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I can't help but agree with you! I would have a hard time tearing up a hymnal. Just gives me the heebie geebies. I actually took a class with a lady who did tear up a Bible to use on her page- turned me off right there...... Now I would think THAT is sacreligious!!
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I wouldn't have a problem with it. Unless it had been blessed by the Pope or something!
Is it sacrilegious that I laughed out loud at this comment?
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How about scanning and printing a copy?
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I always use old music books, honestly it is a music book, just religous songs. Go for it. Let us know if you are struck by lightning anytime soon.
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I think at least part of the allure of using old bound material is the fact that the paper is worn & discolored. Scanning it takes away those aspects.
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A few years ago, during my internship at an emergency room, a patient left a bible in their room after they were released. It was worn, written in, highlighted and obviously loved. But worn out none the less.

The question was raised, was it wrong to throw it away? It had personal notes in it and such so passing it on to someone seemed wrong but when a Bible wears out, what do you do with them?

Long night of many exchanged ideas...a consensus was never found.

What do you do with a much loved and yet worn out Bible?
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I think what I may do, is wait a couple of days. If it is still there, it is meant to be. If it is gone, then maybe it has gone to a better home than mine!
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Here's the link to the noelnoelnoel site. Pretty sheet music there.

http://www.noelnoelnoel.com/leadsht/shtmx
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You're talking to a girl who doesn't like to put another book on top of the Bible. But just look at how much more visible those pages will be on your cards & stuff?

I'm glad to know I'm not alone! I was taught to respect the Bible, but I finally allowed myself to put my study book on top of it on my table, as the study book is smaller and fits more neatly there.

As a Methodist, I only see one problem: if you were to make something disrespectful with the pages. Otherwise, I think you could do some amazing and inspired papercrafts with it. In fact, I'm getting ideas myself....

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A few years ago, during my internship at an emergency room, a patient left a bible in their room after they were released. It was worn, written in, highlighted and obviously loved. But worn out none the less.

The question was raised, was it wrong to throw it away? It had personal notes in it and such so passing it on to someone seemed wrong but when a Bible wears out, what do you do with them?

Long night of many exchanged ideas...a consensus was never found.

What do you do with a much loved and yet worn out Bible?
I wish I knew! My old Bible has seen much better days, since Dad accidentally sat on it at church a few years ago and the glue binding broke when the spine shifted and stretched. Most of the pages are no longer attached to the cover, and at some point I lost the entire book of Jude without realizing it. I had to start keeping a very large rubber band around it to be able to take it anywhere.
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Well....Old timer Methodist here and I find no err with using a page of any Hymnal and turning into a work of art...What better way to grace a verse or two...
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I would have a hard time tearing pages out of the hymnal or any book. My kids even got in trouble when they were little if they colored in their storybooks. But that is just me.

As far as copying pages, you could use inks to give it the aged look.
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I wish I knew! My old Bible has seen much better days, since Dad accidentally sat on it at church a few years ago and the glue binding broke when the spine shifted and stretched. Most of the pages are no longer attached to the cover, and at some point I lost the entire book of Jude without realizing it. I had to start keeping a very large rubber band around it to be able to take it anywhere.
Eh, small book... easy to lose... :mrgreen:

I still have the Bible I got when I was eight and my parents graduated me from the little kids Bible to a Scofield Reference Bible... talk about written all over. Every place we went to in Israel that was in there is marked....I love looking at the Bible my mom had in college and everything she wrote in the margins about things that were challenging or meaningful to her.

I hope no one ever throws either of them away... they are as personal as a diary, really.
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Very interesting thread, I have pondered many of these things myself so I'm glad other people do as well.

As for tearing up a Bible, I've thought about it if the Bible is too beat up to use, like if there are pages out and torn etc. I guess I wouldn't because I'd never want to offend anyone.

I used to collect old hymnals. So, I have about 10, they are pretty much the same so I'm not buying more. If one was falling apart I'd use the pages for decorations. And I'm not Methodist but I love hymns I play them at home for background music.

Thanks for the link for the hymns. I was looking for something like that.

Does anyone know if there is a similar site that has Silent Night? I'm soooo wanting that. Or a stamp with old timey looking Silent Night? Or background paper?
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I'm not what you would call a religious person by any means, but I was brought up Catholic. In my opinion, I wouldn't see a problem using pages from a hymnal or a bible to create a piece of art. Its the message of the written word that counts, not the paper its written on. Besides, it may be the only way someone gets to hear/read the message and become interested in finding out more.
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OK, here is the Catholic perspective as I learned it. A book is a book, the Word of God is part of your spirit and soul. A hymnal is a song book. If it inspires you, use it, enjoy it, and don't feel guilty about it! :-D
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I was raised Catholic and thought we were suppose to feel guilty about everything!
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OK, here is the Catholic perspective as I learned it. A book is a book, the Word of God is part of your spirit and soul. A hymnal is a song book. If it inspires you, use it, enjoy it, and don't feel guilty about it! :-D
This Catholic agrees. I would have a VERY difficult time seeing someone use the pages for something disrespectful, though.

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I am Orthodox. I am a mixed media artist. I am a writer. I love and respect books. For the longest time I had a hard time tearing up a book. I thought I was killing the author, lol. I felt like she was going to feel every tear I made.

I read one time tearing up an old discarded book is very respectful. You give the words new life instead of burying them at a nasty landfill.

Tear up that Hymnal. The Bible would be hard for me but I might do it if the Bible was falling apart, not loved any more by it's former owner and I was making a religious piece.
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I am Lutheran and I know church music. If the hymnal has the old style thin pages and tiny type, you struck gold. Are the pages yellowing? Ka-ching! Are the edges trimmed in gold or silver? Motherlode! This book was made for crafting projects and would love to be re-purposed on your Christmas cards. Pick a few of your favorite carols or hymns and go for it!
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humming the hymn while you removed the page would be a nice touch, too. . . .
Both of these actually made me LOL!

I bought a few REALLY old hymnals at an antique store. Yellowing, ripping, rough edges, etc. I intend to make cards with them and have no problem ripping pages out.

Now the Bible would be a different story...
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I have an old reader from I'd guess the 50's. It's torn and all and I saved it and plan on using the pages for something. Don't we all have a stash of something I'll defineately use some day?
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photo copy the page you want, and then use that.
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I'd have a hard time tearing a page out of any book but i'd be all over scanning printing and making it looked aged
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