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Ya, but if they "fix it" are they going to have a recall on all of these? I mean how would we be notified that they solved the problem?
I'm just thinking out loud.....
I hope they do come up with a solution, but if the solution is to remake all the dies that would be an awful lot of product to give to those of us that already have these.
Ya, but if they "fix it" are they going to have a recall on all of these? I mean how would we be notified that they solved the problem?
I'm just thinking out loud.....
I hope they do come up with a solution, but if the solution is to remake all the dies that would be an awful lot of product to give to those of us that already have these.
Ginger
I have thought of this, too...
I was at a friend's house stamping, yesterday, and her nesties did the same thing as mine.
It doesn't seem to be a bad batch.
Am eager to see what happens. I do love the product and use them a lot, just hate taking time to clean my paper...
Hi......I've recently purchased 3 sets of the Nestabilities from Stamping Cottage. I'm reading on this thread about some kind of residue people are finding on their die cuts. Can someone be more specific as to what you get on your cut paper when use these dies? The only thing I have gotten from time to time is a fragment of something on the edge that just brushes off easy with my finger. It's no big deal and happens with other dies also. It's either fragments of plastic from the cutting pads or cut paper or could be paper fragments that are embedded in the cutting pad. Are others getting something else more damaging on their die cuts?
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't Nestie's made in China? Now their hitting us in our craft areas.
If there would be a "recall" I am sure you would have to have some proof of purchase and maybe the original packaging. I know a lot of us have put them in to something else for convenient storage.
ooh..yes! I have noticed the dirty shmear around the edges of my circles and rectangles! I (assumed) it was stray grease left over from the die-making process. The machines that they use in die-making use a lot of grease because there needs to be some sort of agent to grease up the die making machine (most times grease because it is slickery and cheap) so that it doesn't just get so hot that the machine that is doing the cutting has a melt-down.
Anyway, I did notice it. I don't know how to make it go away unless I try using GooGone or some other grease-removal agent which I haven't yet tried. As far as the coppery flakes, yes, I noticed those too but wasn't really concerned with it. Though now that you mention rusting, that could be an issue with leaving residue as well.
Subscribing since mine do this as well. I'm going to try washing them as recommended and see if that helps. If there is a recall, I will be in trouble because I didn't save packaging or receipts.
I washed mine with soap and water and a toothbrush like they said to do. Seem to help a bit, but still left behind some residue, which I do not like. You cannot sand scallops! I do love them though. Don't think I'd give them up either way.
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Hi......I've recently purchased 3 sets of the Nestabilities from Stamping Cottage. I'm reading on this thread about some kind of residue people are finding on their die cuts. Can someone be more specific as to what you get on your cut paper when use these dies? The only thing I have gotten from time to time is a fragment of something on the edge that just brushes off easy with my finger. It's no big deal and happens with other dies also. It's either fragments of plastic from the cutting pads or cut paper or could be paper fragments that are embedded in the cutting pad. Are others getting something else more damaging on their die cuts?
Patti
What I find is a grayish, "dirty" smudge on the edges. Sometimes I can get it off better than others. I used to use my glue eraser, but now have tried sanding as some others have said, to try and remove it. It's not fragments of plastic or paper.
On Saturday, I cut out a stack of white rectangles and I noticed it even more when looking at the sides of the stack. Does that make sense?
I just got my Wizard, nesties and dies at the GASC and so far so good. I am wondering if maybe some just need to be broken in with test paper a few times first to break them in.
Considering that I have had mine since October I would HOPE that they would be broken in by now, lol.
I love my nesties, but my ovals (plain, the whole set) have just not behaved well.
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I just got my Wizard, nesties and dies at the GASC and so far so good. I am wondering if maybe some just need to be broken in with test paper a few times first to break them in.
No my ovals have not behaved, these are the only shapes that I am having a problem with. And not the scalloped but just the plain ovals, so weird. It doesn't effect the cut but that little wire is bothering me.
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Well I'd say since October...they are well broken in (LOL) I just want to cut out everything since I got this new toy :-) How have your Ovals behaved?
I'm glad I found this thread.....I really thought it was something I was doing to cause the dirty edge. I assumed either my cuttlebug sandwich was too thick and it was "smooshing" the edge of the nestie into my paper or that I didn't use them enough yet and they needed to be "broken in."
Heather
Subscribing.....I hadn't notice anything on my circle set but then again I wasn't looking for anything......I just got an oval set and will have to check them out!
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Could someone with the problem be more specific as to WHAT the problem is with the dies? I've had no problem that wasn't easily dealt with by rubbing gently with my finger to remove small fragments of something. It's not been a big deal.
I saw the response from Spellbinders and manufacturing residue is probably NOT what's causing my dirty edges. I've had the original full set since August and I use them all the time so I'm pretty sure they're clean by now!
I have both problems with my Nesties - the copper coating flaking off and the "dirt" left on the cut edges of the shapes. The "dirt" has been around for a lot longer, but the flaking is more recent - probably within the last month or so.
Could someone with the problem be more specific as to WHAT the problem is with the dies? I've had no problem that wasn't easily dealt with by rubbing gently with my finger to remove small fragments of something. It's not been a big deal.
What is the problem others are having?
Patti
Actually, I think people have been quite specific in this forum in that dirty marks and flakes from the dies are appearing on their card bases from the use of the nesties. Most of this "dirt" comes off when using an eraser - no big deal as you say - but I ask - why should anyone have to clean anything? We didn't buy the nesties knowing that we would have to clean up after them.
Like many others, I was getting ready to order some more nestabilities, but will hold off for now. This is a very frustrating problem. These are quite an investment for most of us crafters. Copper flaking off and residue that has to be removed from paper--especially sanded off is not acceptable to me. I love the nesties, too--the look that they give. But I'm not willing to have to deal with these issues. Several posters have also said that their nesties do not cut cleanly through in the areas that have flaked!! I am not willing to have to cut with scissors, after diecutting. I guess I'm sounding really fussy here, but REALLY!!
I should say that I currently own oval and circle geometrics--no such problem with these dies, which are over 2 years old. Also have the entire set of original rectangle nesties, no problem either!! Now, if I could just get my Wizard to work--but that's another thread.
I've had the same issues with my sets and thought it had to do with bits of junk stuck to my tan embossing mat. Sometimes the paper can be easily cleaned, but that's a bit more challenging when I'm only embossing a notecard and the black bits are on the cardfront.
I just got my order today and it did the same. It looks as if the coating is rubbing off on the inside of the cut. Has anyone heard back directly from Spellbinders yet? What was the response?
First, I would like to personally thank everyone for your comments and patience while Spellbinders looked into the �dirty edge die issue�. After Speaking with our factory, reviewing samples sent in from various split coast stamping members and extensively testing the dies it has become evident that in some cases the paint on Spellbinders dies may flake off on or near the cutting edges of the dies.
The Spellbinders dies are chemically etched dies. They are painted the Copper color for cosmetic purposes only. When using ANY chemically etched die in conjunction with a ROLLER or PRESS machine, it is NORMAL due to the extreme PRESSURE exerted in the machines for some of the color to come off the edges of cutting surfaces of the dies. This includes ALL CHEMICALLY ETCHED DIES including the Silver ones which we have also observed and tested extensively.
The reason this is more noticeable with Spellbinders dies is due to the Copper Coloring. Again, the color coming off the dies is strictly cosmetic only and in no way effects the performance or strength of Spellbinders dies.
We have used and tested a wide array of cleaning products and have determined the best way to remove any unwanted residue is to clean the dies with a general household cleaner such as Pine sol, Lysol household cleaner, dish liquid or laundry detergent along with a brush of some kind such as a toothbrush, nail brush or small household cleaning brush. I am very happy to say that all of the above mentioned products removed and resolved the �dirty edge issue�. Again, I would like to thank all of the wonderful split coast members for bringing this to our attention. If you have any questions feel free to e-mail us at [email protected]
Kindest regards,
Stacey Caron
President, Spellbinders Paper Arts LLC
Thanks for getting back to us Stacey. For me, this "dirty edge" thing has never been a concern. I see it once in a while and it wipes right off, so I don't consider it a big problem.
The way I look at it, Spellbinders dies or any dies, for that matter, are tools. I wish you could see what some of my dies look like right now. They are full of ink and paint and markers - it's not a big deal. I can't imagine any tool that anyone uses being in pristine condition. If that's the case, then "dirty edges" are the least of your problems. A friend once said to me that you will never be considered an artist if you are afraid to get your hands dirty. I feel the same way about my art tools.
Sure, I could take your advice and clean them, but I don't think it's necessary. It takes care of itself after using them for a while. So for me, I will continue using my Spellbinders dies and not worry about a little bit of paint. If that is all I ever have to worry about in my life, a small amount of chipped paint, then I will consider myself very lucky!
Thanks, Stacey. I was just notified that my first set of nesties should be arriving soon. I will probably try them out before I try cleaning them since not everyone seems to have the problem. It's good to know there is a way to clean them.
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Can you give me the basics on how to use nestabilites in the cuttlebug? I have the machine but no nestabilites - too chicken to spend the money without knowing what I am doing. Thanks!
First, I would like to personally thank everyone for your comments and patience while Spellbinders looked into the �dirty edge die issue�. After Speaking with our factory, reviewing samples sent in from various split coast stamping members and extensively testing the dies it has become evident that in some cases the paint on Spellbinders dies may flake off on or near the cutting edges of the dies.
The Spellbinders dies are chemically etched dies. They are painted the Copper color for cosmetic purposes only. When using ANY chemically etched die in conjunction with a ROLLER or PRESS machine, it is NORMAL due to the extreme PRESSURE exerted in the machines for some of the color to come off the edges of cutting surfaces of the dies. This includes ALL CHEMICALLY ETCHED DIES including the Silver ones which we have also observed and tested extensively.
The reason this is more noticeable with Spellbinders dies is due to the Copper Coloring. Again, the color coming off the dies is strictly cosmetic only and in no way effects the performance or strength of Spellbinders dies.
We have used and tested a wide array of cleaning products and have determined the best way to remove any unwanted residue is to clean the dies with a general household cleaner such as Pine sol, Lysol household cleaner, dish liquid or laundry detergent along with a brush of some kind such as a toothbrush, nail brush or small household cleaning brush. I am very happy to say that all of the above mentioned products removed and resolved the �dirty edge issue�. Again, I would like to thank all of the wonderful split coast members for bringing this to our attention. If you have any questions feel free to e-mail us at [email protected]
Kindest regards,
Stacey Caron
President, Spellbinders Paper Arts LLC
Thanks a lot Stacey for your response. Even though I have had the issue of paint on the (VERY EDGE) of my cardstock, I've always been able to remove it with a regular pencil eraser. I will certainly do what you have suggested for future use of my dies. I love them, and the wide verity of projects/cards I can make with them goes without saying, not to mention the extra space in my work area (no punches). The extra step to erase the edge is not a problem for me at all. After doing what you have suggested, I sure the problem will go away. Your product is truly amazing!! And I certainly will continue use of them. As a crafter, I know a good thing when I have it, and believe me, this is a GOOD THING!!!
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