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Old 06-07-2008, 07:48 AM   #1  
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I use SU! cardstock for all my card bases. Yesterday I needed to cut & score some more, so I randomly picked thru the color families for the colors that appealed to me and then cut them in half. When I went to score them, I realized something strange- the colors do NOT all feel the same. For example, Only Orange was much sturdier than Glorious Green. Why are some sheets so much heavier feeling? And others more floppy?
I thought they were all the same weight...

I am not saying the Glorious Green was unusable or weak- just not as sturdy as the Only Orange. I could feel a real difference when I picked the cards up one at a time to score them.

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This is a good question. I don't have an answer, but I noticed yesterday when I was using old olive (which is a color I do not get out very often) that it didn't seem as sturdy, and was actually splitting at the corners a little bit. I really wasn't sure what to think. Another thing I've noticed is that some colors seem to cut easier than others, though I could be totally losing it.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:45 AM   #3  
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i don't have the answer either...

i have noticed the same thing.


with that said... still love love SU! CS
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Yep, I've noticed it, too. I love it, and while I am not complaining for even a second, I am really curious why that is. Is it a color thing or is it a "batch" thing? Sometimes the difference is really strong, too.

Interesting observation!

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A few years ago when 8 colors retired and new ones replaced them, Stampin' Success (the magazine/idea book for SU! demos) had an article about paper. I recall that they mentioned having several different paper vendors, but that the c/s weight (which was either 60# or 85# paper weight) and Pantone color variances were to remain fairly consistent and were actually assigned an acceptable variance "range" after years of unsatisfactory color "migration" due to sliding standards. If memory serves, they also mentioned that some papers end up feeling "heavier" because of the dyes and processes required to achieve the colors.

I took away from the article: there *could* be some "noticeable" differences between colors, but that they want to hear about anything unusual, questionable, or of downright poor quality. What I would do if it were me: accept the differences for what they are unless I have quality issues (e.g. I don't believe the paper is the correct weight; it doesn't perform the way other colors do,; the color is just plain *wrong* for the shade it is supposed to be; or my images start bleeding into the fibers of the c/s.)

Hope this info helps... ~ kbc
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That's interesting. I bought a pack of bashful blue last year where about 1/2 of the pack has discolored paper. On each sheet, 1/2 of the sheet was lighter than the other 1/2. Since I had limited time, I just cut it so it wasn't noticeable. Otherwise, I would have wanted a replacement.
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More intense colors will feel heavier. Has to do with how much ink it takes. :-) Black cardstock is much heavier than Celery.
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Good to know this as I get more into stamping and cutting SU! CS - which I prefer to the thinner stuff I can get where I work...thanks for posting this info.
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A few years ago when 8 colors retired and new ones replaced them, Stampin' Success (the magazine/idea book for SU! demos) had an article about paper. I recall that they mentioned having several different paper vendors, but that the c/s weight (which was either 60# or 85# paper weight) and Pantone color variances were to remain fairly consistent and were actually assigned an acceptable variance "range" after years of unsatisfactory color "migration" due to sliding standards. If memory serves, they also mentioned that some papers end up feeling "heavier" because of the dyes and processes required to achieve the colors.

I took away from the article: there *could* be some "noticeable" differences between colors, but that they want to hear about anything unusual, questionable, or of downright poor quality. What I would do if it were me: accept the differences for what they are unless I have quality issues (e.g. I don't believe the paper is the correct weight; it doesn't perform the way other colors do,; the color is just plain *wrong* for the shade it is supposed to be; or my images start bleeding into the fibers of the c/s.)

Hope this info helps... ~ kbc
I was going to say it is probably the dye process... I do know that the more pigment required (darker papers) cost more to produce, so maybe something with the paper fibers breaking down as well...
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The explanations about different colors being heavier than others due to dyes makes sense to me because I've noticed a difference between colors in other brands as well.
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Thanks! It just seemed odd to me, cuz I know they have such good quality control!


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This is a good question. I don't have an answer, but I noticed yesterday when I was using old olive (which is a color I do not get out very often)
I don't know the answer.. but did read the article that SU had in the magazine a while back about paper.. but don't remember what it said.. I just gasped when I read that Old Olive is a color you don't use very often.. it's one of my FAVS!!! I know, I know.. not everybody likes the same colors and greens are not really my favorite colors.. but I love the look of Old Olive for some reason.. A friend was at my house a couple of nights ago and was looking through my boxes of cards and commented on how nice a cardstock my cards were made with.. I told her it was Stampin' UP! she mentioned that it was so much nicer than what you get at Walmart or Hobby Lobby.. I agree 100% .. even when the paper feels lighter, it's still vvvveeeerrrrryyyy nice! I love SU paper ~ in fact in my order I got on Friday, it was for 8 packs of paper and a punch! love it!!

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I don't know the answer.. but did read the article that SU had in the magazine a while back about paper.. but don't remember what it said.. I just gasped when I read that Old Olive is a color you don't use very often.. it's one of my FAVS!!! I know, I know.. not everybody likes the same colors and greens are not really my favorite colors.. but I love the look of Old Olive for some reason.. A friend was at my house a couple of nights ago and was looking through my boxes of cards and commented on how nice a cardstock my cards were made with.. I told her it was Stampin' UP! she mentioned that it was so much nicer than what you get at Walmart or Hobby Lobby.. I agree 100% .. even when the paper feels lighter, it's still vvvveeeerrrrryyyy nice! I love SU paper ~ in fact in my order I got on Friday, it was for 8 packs of paper and a punch! love it!!

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Isn't it funny how our tastes vary? Except for the browns (choc. chip, caramel, cocoa) and ruby red I rarely use earth elements at all. If I want a dark, earthy looking green I grab the artichoke every time. But usually for greens I prefer celery or mellow moss. Or more recently wild wasabi. (really hate to see that one go :( )
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I LOVE the Earth Elements and Rich Regal color families.. I would love to have all the rooms in my house painted in those colors.. I agree 100% about Wild Wasabi.. I use it on a card last night. it is such a great color and it will be a sad day when SU retires it.. Pam
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It's good to know that I'm not the only that saw the difference in the colors. I thought I had received a bad batch. But I still love my SU cardstock. Like Airbornewife, the rich regals and earth elements are my favorite.
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Not quite the same, but I bought some Lands' End shirts, all the same shirt, but in different colors. Some of the shirts were softer than others! May have to do with the dye or with a different factory making it, I suppose.
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