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I haven't heard about promarkers until recently, so I'm open to giving them a shot! I have been using copics for a few years for mainly one reason. They're available at Hobby Lobby, which is less than a mile from my house and they're often on sale there.
Personally, I use Copics because they are refillable and I can replace the nibs if they get worn or broken. The Copic Sketch markers also come in 334 colors...because even with that many, there are other colors I could use! LOL
Really, though, the refillable part is huge for me. When I invest in tools for crafting, I would rather invest a bit more (read: grow my collection slower ;) ) and get something that will be a permanent part of my collection. With the history of Copic, I can trust that 10 years from now, if I have a dry marker, I will be able to order a refill and it will be exactly the same as it is now. Love that.
I haven't heard about promarkers until recently, so I'm open to giving them a shot! I have been using copics for a few years for mainly one reason. They're available at Hobby Lobby, which is less than a mile from my house and they're often on sale there.
Are Promarkers available in the US?
u can get promarkers everywhere inclusing ebay.
and they do last a reallllllllllllllllllly long time too.
could anyone post a close up pic of both nibs on a copic so i can see please
I'm with Shannan on the refillable and replaceable nibs aspect. I haven't used Promarkers but I have used Tria which are also made by Letraset and look very similar. I didn't like the feel of the chunkier barrel as much as the Copic Ciao or Sketch and the Copic nibs are hands down, different ball-park, better quality. I actually snapped a Tria nib just by putting the cap on slightly squint - yikes! My experience with those would put me off buying Promarkers.
I'm with Shannan on the refillable and replaceable nibs aspect. I haven't used Promarkers but I have used Tria which are also made by Letraset and look very similar. I didn't like the feel of the chunkier barrel as much as the Copic Ciao or Sketch and the Copic nibs are hands down, different ball-park, better quality. I actually snapped a Tria nib just by putting the cap on slightly squint - yikes! My experience with those would put me off buying Promarkers.
would u take sum close up photos of the different copics so i can see the nibs properly pleaseeeee
Just posted a link for you. I'm in the UK so it's waaay too dark to take photos and I'm just on my way to bed so I hope you can see what you need from that.
Just posted a link for you. I'm in the UK so it's waaay too dark to take photos and I'm just on my way to bed so I hope you can see what you need from that.
maybe u or someone can do it 2morrow as i havent seen a good enough photo yet for me to compare:???:
Personally, I use Copics because they are refillable and I can replace the nibs if they get worn or broken. The Copic Sketch markers also come in 334 colors...because even with that many, there are other colors I could use! LOL
Really, though, the refillable part is huge for me. When I invest in tools for crafting, I would rather invest a bit more (read: grow my collection slower ;) ) and get something that will be a permanent part of my collection. With the history of Copic, I can trust that 10 years from now, if I have a dry marker, I will be able to order a refill and it will be exactly the same as it is now. Love that.
That's why I use them. Plus, it helps that they're the world leader in this type of marker, which to me means that they've had consistent sales for a long time thanks to making a good quality product.
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I tried the markers and I loved them. I never tried Pro-Markers but bought 1 Copics and one Prismacolor marker.
I decided to buy Copics sketch because they are refillable; I can buy replacement nibs; one end is very flexible like a paint brush ( the other end is a chisel nib ) and they can be used with an air brush. I plan to ask my kids to go together and buy an air brush system for me for Christmas. They just don't know it yet LOL
I don't think it is a savings to buy a cheaper marker if I need to buy a whole new marker when it runs dry.
Personally, I use Copics because they are refillable and I can replace the nibs if they get worn or broken. The Copic Sketch markers also come in 334 colors...because even with that many, there are other colors I could use! LOL
Really, though, the refillable part is huge for me. When I invest in tools for crafting, I would rather invest a bit more (read: grow my collection slower ;) ) and get something that will be a permanent part of my collection. With the history of Copic, I can trust that 10 years from now, if I have a dry marker, I will be able to order a refill and it will be exactly the same as it is now. Love that.
Yep! Shannan summed it up.
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Nina can you tell me more about promarkers, who makes them, how many different colors they come in, retail price, and are they refillable, and do they have nibs that can be replaced.
I wonder if they will mix then with copics if they are the same type of marker (anyone tried that?) I would like to try one if they do blend with Copics, just to see what they are like, but would need more to know a bit more about them, and also do they have two different nibs, if so can you show me a picture of their nibs? Or provide me with a link Nina. Thanks!
When I did a search for Promarkers, I found that the nibs are different from the Copics. The Promarkers have a broad chisel nib and a round bullet nib. I like the brush nib on the Copics.
Another vote here for the nibs (all the other reasons too). Bullet and chisel tips are okay in certain situations, but that flexible, durable brush nib on the Copic is da bomb
another vote for copics because of the brush nib.
for me the promarkers were not cheaper, it was about the same cost and i did not like the nibs nor the size of the barrel.
maybe u or someone can do it 2morrow as i havent seen a good enough photo yet for me to compare:???:
OK, here you go. These are Ciao markers but the nibs on Sketch are the same so you could imagine they're either! The one of the left of the picture is the super brush nib. The other two are the chisel nib taken from different angles, one to show the broad side and the other the narrower one.
Scale is metric - sorry to the US girls who think in inches!
I wonder if they will mix then with copics if they are the same type of marker (anyone tried that?)
I used Trias with Copics, no problem. I don't know for sure that the ink in Tria and Promarker is the same but they are both made by Letraset so I would think so. I don't know whether it was just the nibs though but I didn't feel that the Tria coverage or blending was quite as smooth as the Copic.
Promarkers do NOT have the same ink. Copic markers are ethanol, and pro markers have a different alcohol composition. Promarkers are not tested 3 times by hand before they are shipped to customers, and they do not have a 3year shelf-life guarantee (if you don't use a Copic marker for a while it will still be juicy, guaranteed).
Promarkers also smell more than Copic markers. Copic markers come in a whole lot more colors, and if you really want a super-fine nib, you can buy a Copic original marker and replace the fine nib with an even smaller nib.
As an artist, and not just someone who works for Copic, you will get more for your money with Copics and be happier in the long run.
Nina can you tell me more about promarkers, who makes them, how many different colors they come in, retail price, and are they refillable, and do they have nibs that can be replaced.
I wonder if they will mix then with copics if they are the same type of marker (anyone tried that?) I would like to try one if they do blend with Copics, just to see what they are like, but would need more to know a bit more about them, and also do they have two different nibs, if so can you show me a picture of their nibs? Or provide me with a link Nina. Thanks!
promarkers are alchol based markers, not refillable and no changing of nibd but they are under 2 dollars 2 buy, 1.60 i think is the best price and you can just google letraset promarkers
they do blend with copics.
what markers should i start with if i m getting say 10 copics. i ll write down what promarkers i have so its easier
marsh green,apple
mustard, canary
ivory,blush
orange,gold
sandstone,pastelbeige, cocoa, tan,caramel
burgundy, purple, aubergine, lilac
cool grey4
ice grey 5
cornflower, powder blue, blue pearl, cool aqua, azure
coctail pink, cerise, hot pink, rose pink, pastel pink, mulberry, poppy
i do have 5 more but i m gonna swop them cause i find them to dark
Promarkers do NOT have the same ink. Copic markers are ethanol, and pro markers have a different alcohol composition.
WELL BOTH IS ALCHOL MARKERS
Promarkers are not tested 3 times by hand before they are shipped to customers, and they do not have a 3year shelf-life guarantee (if you don't use a Copic marker for a while it will still be juicy, guaranteed).
Promarkers also smell more than Copic markers.
MINE DO NOT SMELL ANY NOTICABLY
Copic markers come in a whole lot more colors, and if you really want a super-fine nib, you can buy a Copic original marker and replace the fine nib with an even smaller nib.
As an artist, and not just someone who works for Copic, you will get more for your money with Copics and be happier in the long run.
THE PROMARKERS ARE NOTR AS CRAPPY AS YOU DESCRIBE THEM, THEY HAVE BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR A LONG TIME TOO AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE LESS COLOURS AN NO CHANGABLE AND INK THEY ARE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO THE COPICS.
i m not yelling, just wanted to make it clear what i say and what you say
THE PROMARKERS ARE NOTR AS CRAPPY AS YOU DESCRIBE THEM
I don't think Marianne was saying the Promarkers are crappy, she's just saying what is different between them and Copics which is answering the question you originally asked.
As for what colours to get, you partly answered your own question by saying you are planning to swap out your darker Promarkers. It's really individual preference for the type of images you'll be colouring and if you err on the side of light ones you'll be fine - you can always layer up to get deeper tones if you want them.
I don't think Marianne was saying the Promarkers are crappy, she's just saying what is different between them and Copics which is answering the question you originally asked.
As for what colours to get, you partly answered your own question by saying you are planning to swap out your darker Promarkers. It's really individual preference for the type of images you'll be colouring and if you err on the side of light ones you'll be fine - you can always layer up to get deeper tones if you want them.
but i thought maybe somone could advice me on what copics to get, tht would work with the promarkers i have.
i find the number system very confusing;)
Thank you Nina, Joanne and Marianne for the explanation.
Nina I would hate to guess which Copics with go best with those promarkers without seeing the colors on paper in front of me, do you know what I mean.
I pay no attention whatsoever to the numbering system. I pick colours I like the look of and I remember them by name, not by number. I carry a chart in my wallet that does have the numbers printed in little squares and when I get a new marker, I colour in that square so that next time I buy markers I can check which I already have - it's the only time the numbers come in to play for me and that's basically because they're smaller than names for fitting on a limited amount of space.
To be honest, I think if six people gave you a list of colours to buy, you would have six different lists and be no better off.
Thank you Nina, Joanne and Marianne for the explanation.
Nina I would hate to guess which Copics with go best with those promarkers without seeing the colors on paper in front of me, do you know what I mean.
have a look at the promarker colour charts
and i know u all will advice me differently and that is perefctly ok, i just thought it would be nice with sum help. also which of the copics is cheapest?
i do want with one small and one bigger nib but if i can buy the tiny nibs and they fit with the cheapest markers i will do that i think
If you are interested in learning more about the Copic numbering system and about the various types of Copic markers out there, you can visit Marianne's blog HERE (she's the Bomb) or any of the Copic Certification Team members blogs listed below. We all share lots of information about the product and each of use has different "favorites" when it comes to papers, inks, and colors.
and i know u all will advice me differently and that is perefctly ok, i just thought it would be nice with sum help. also which of the copics is cheapest?
i do want with one small and one bigger nib but if i can buy the tiny nibs and they fit with the cheapest markers i will do that i think
the smallest nibs (super fine) only fit in the Copic "Original" marker type (not the Sketch or the Ciao). That's why I purchased Originals in all the colors that I could and then Sketch only to fill in colors. I really love the super fine nibs and I do wish that I could get ALL the colors in the Original type marker!
Nina, I don't know if this will help you or not, but here goes. I'm brand new to Copics, and I've already fallen in love with them. They're GREAT markers. I have some of the Ciao and some of the Sketch, and I prefer the Sketch. They're basically exactly the same, except the Ciao are thinner and round, while the Sketch are a bit thicker and oval shaped. This is nice because they don't roll around on your work surface. They also hold more ink than the Ciaos. However, if you just want to invest in the cheapest Copics for now, go with the Caios. I personally recommend the website carpediem.com and I've heard good things about oozak.com.
I don't know what color combos work best with what you've got, but some of my favorites are:
BG10 (Cool Shadow) and BG13 (Mint Green)
Y11 (Pale Yellow) and Y15 (Cadmium Yellow)
R20 (Blush), R22 (Light Prawn), R27 (Cadmium Red)
But like I said, I don't have that many colors yet. Hope that helps!
i m still not sure what of the markers to get, if anyone could check out the promarker nibs and tell me what one i can get then, cause i do wish sometimes a smaller nib than my promarkers
Ok. so what is the difference in regular markers, like Stampin Up and Tombow, compared to Copic?
"regular" markers are waterbased and streak or cause the paper to get ripped up when you go over the same spot a few times. Copic markers are alcohol based, so they never destroy the paper.
If you're looking for a firm, fine point, go with the Copic Original markers. If you want to try the unique brush that most people prefer then go for Sketch or Ciao. if possible, find someone who has them and try one first so you can see what we mean. try looking at a fine-art store, as they frequently have Copic markers.
you have maybe made your selection, whether promarkers or copic,
however; you may want to consider that a "google search" brings up tons of
copic tutorials versus promarkers for a ton of information when it comes to copic combination colors to use, blending combinations to use, color combinations to buy for future purchases and tutorials with copics used in card craft listed. I've never
regretted copic
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I have copics, trias and prismacolors and I still like the nib on the prismacolors the best. It gives me way more control than the brush nib on the copics. Each to her own.
Just found out about Promarkers on a blog today and was surprised to find a thread on SCS. I thought they were a new product. Guess not. They do have a large color range to choose from and are really cheap on Carpediemstore.com. I really don't need any markers since I have both Sketch and Ciaos and dye based markers. But, I like that one of the nibs is firm and will probably be great for tight spots and outlining. I think I'll buy some in "most used" colors just for those two reasons. At $1.49 a marker 36 markers would cost $53.64 and 36 Copics comes to about $140.00. Anyone with a budget problem could get a nice assortment of markers for more than 50% less than the cost of Copics. At $1.49 each, if it dries up, cheap enough to replace.
I bought 3 color coordinating Triart markers at a stamp show a couple months ago. I like the concept of having the 3 tips, and they are refillable, so I thought what the heck I'll try them out.
I like the brush tip on the Copic markers much better than brush tip on the Triart. The Copic markers also seem to blend better for me. Just my opinion, but I'll be sticking with the Copic markers.
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Howcome you all use copics and not promarkers when its the same stuff and promarkers
