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ok so my Gma N and my Opa are out visting and i brought up my three newest cards and Gma said "i would like to buy those" so i said sure and went to my room to stamp the envies and put them in clear envelopes. no i normally charge $3 a card and she comes and give me $6, she asked if it was ok and i should have told her i actually charge $3 but i just took the money then i TRIED to show her the stamped envies and she was like yaya whatever.. and walked past me. im seriously so bugged about how rude she was and i told me dad and he said "typical mom but dont worry about it tahts just gma.) and its his own mother! i spent hours on those cards and the one is a prototype for my cmas cards this year. here are the cards she bought and tell me if they are only worth $2
i need to remember that they are dutch and that is were copper wire came from, two dutch men fighting over a penny! ( not trying to hurt feelings here.)
Nobody understands as much as we do about what our art is worth!!
And well, Id give my gramma a price break!!! lol
Great cards Chelsey!!
seriously i dont mind giving her a price break and its amazing she even bouggt from me at all but she didnt even ask teh price at first just broughtthe money and im such a weekling taht i never said boo about it to her (she is rather intimidating), i rember one cmas she made chinelle (spl) scarves for all her grandaughters EXCEPT me i got a basket with travel sized soap.
Nobody understands as much as we do about what our art is worth!!
And well, Id give my gramma a price break!!! lol
Great cards Chelsey!!
I echo that no one understands how much work goes into what we do. And if they did, then they would REALLY think we're crazy -- if you don't do it, you just don't get it.
As for Grandma, she DID appreciate them enough to buy them, which is something. And she's from a different generation -- consider that she probably thinks that's more than a fair price for what she sees as something you did just for fun. I know it's frustrating, though. Your cards are certainly beautiful and I can easily see why she liked them so much!
Once in a while a make some cards for my OMA. I don't take money from her. She always adores my work and says she has to be "careful" to whom she's going to send them to...
Don't be hard on your grandma, older people are different then we are, another generation. And I am sure she likes your work!
Beautiful cards!!!! Just be happy that someone buys your cards, LOL!
No, I would have given grandma a break and she prolly just doesn't get how much time you put into them and if she did, she would prolly say "Don't you have better things to do with your time" or something like that---I'm sure we have all heard something along those lines at least once from family, right?
Your cards are very beautiful. Grammas can be very unfair sometimes betweent he grandkids. I know as mine is the same way. Don't let it bother you. Yuo go on making your beautiful cards and just think that giving grams a price break was the right thing to do. I do see why it bothered you though. She could have asked the price instead of assuming it.
I know you feel like it is a slap in the face, but trust me,
anyone who offers to buy anything, it isn't a slap in the face.
A slap in the face would have been "don't you have better things to do with our money and/or time"!
Hang in there! Family is family.
Yup! She doesn't understand why you think card-making is such a big deal, but because it is YOU she is trying to show an interest! The cards have no value to her except that you made them...and for a frugal person to be handing over $$$ for the sake of affection - I think it's a compliment, not a slap!
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Personally, I would have just given her the cards for free...it's your grandmother......
But this is a 17 year old that stamped these! As she's 17, I would think Grandma would have OVERPAID enormously just because she's so young. (I know, Chelsey..you're not young, you're grown up! Just making a point!)
And I must say....for ANY age, this gal makes the most BEAUTIFUL cards! Keep it up, Chelsey!
You did a lovely job!!! Your Gma probably thought she was overpaying. If yours is anything like mine was (as well as many of my customers) They think the total price of a card should always be less than $2. Store Bought or handmade. It sounds like she was trying to be supportive. But if this is a hobby she has never tried she may just not get it. She is probably at this very moment having coffee with friends and bragging about the beautiful cards her granddaughter made her and how good you are because of your nice hobby. I know thats what mine would have done.
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WOW!!! Way to go, Chelsey! Extra-amazing -- you'll be running this place before too long! You have a wonderful talent for any age, but if you stick with this, the sky is truly the limit for what you're going to be able to do!
Maybe she thought she you'd given her a *family discount*. But seriously, your cards are absolutely lovely and I would try to take it as a fine compliment that she wanted to buy them from you. Giving her the benefit of the doubt that she has no idea of what it does take to create such things.
Your cards are absolutely gorgeous and wonderful. They are worth lots and lots. However, I think it is an absolutely honor that your grandmother offered to purchase them. I know you have lots and lots of time into them, you can tell by looking. Sometimes when its family involved we tend to be more hurt.....but honestly, I think a good course of action would have been to not accept any money, give them to your grandmother as a gift and then sit back and wait until she shows them, sends them to and brags about them to her friends and then wait for the orders to come in.
Grandma...if any of your friends would like to purchase some of these they are $3.00 per card. I would really like to begin selling my cards, maybe you could help me do that. Of course I gave you yours free to help me get some new customers...
Thats just me.....I truly believe once she starts showing off these beautiful cards, people are gonna want to buy them from you and will not hesitate one bit to pay $3.00 or maybe more. They are truly wonderful!
i need to remember that they are dutch and that is were copper wire came from, two dutch men fighting over a penny! ( not trying to hurt feelings here.)
BAHAHAAHH!!! (thinking of my Dutch relations...you got that bang on the money...hee hee...my DH's relatives, also Dutch...no hurt feelings here!)
i rember one cmas she made chinelle (spl) scarves for all her grandaughters EXCEPT me i got a basket with travel sized soap.
I can somewhat relate to the above with my grandma but it was the reverse - I gave my Polish grandma a pair of nice slippers for Christmas one year and she let me know that she didn't need or want them and instead wanted a 6 pack of beer! LOL
Chelsey, your cards are gorgeous. I especially love the blue/brown color combo!
like i said before i dont mind giving gma a bit of a discount. but i am also a student so i dont have the largest income so selling a card of two helps payoff teh supplies.
what actually hurt the most was while i was trying to show her what i had done to the envie for her she blew me off and ignored me say "ya ya whatever" that was the slap in the face
Just a thought, but when I do sell cards at craft fairs and such, I usually charge $12 for a pack of 6 with envelopes. I realize that your time spent on the initial design is usually a lot, but when re-creating the same card over and over, it doesn't take too long.
Your actual cost on each card is probably less than a dollar. So if you're charging $2, you're making a heck of a profit!
And if it were my grandma, I would have given them to her. Her and gramps have helped me out so much over they years and I could never begin to make it up to them!
Your cards are beautiful..well as a Gramma..i would tend to pay MORE than the asking or the worth..That's what Gramma's are for..lol..i do that with my daughters too..it's great encouragement..but then my grands are only 6 and 3..but still that just my opinion..keep up the good work..loves ya
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I can't comment on the value of the cards because those of us that make them ourselves know the true value of them and don't shop for our cards at the dollar store... the appreciation of our art just isn't there...
Unfortunately I have to say that I would have given them to my grandmother and not charged her at all... but that's my grandmother... we all do things a bit different and nobody's way is wrong nor is anybody's way better than others... it's simply what works for us...
But man oh, man those cards are just stunning !!! Great job on all of them... !!
ok so my Gma N and my Opa are out visting and i brought up my three newest cards and Gma said "i would like to buy those" so i said sure and went to my room to stamp the envies and put them in clear envelopes. no i normally charge $3 a card and she comes and give me $6, she asked if it was ok and i should have told her i actually charge $3 but i just took the money then i TRIED to show her the stamped envies and she was like yaya whatever.. and walked past me. im seriously so bugged about how rude she was and i told me dad and he said "typical mom but dont worry about it tahts just gma.) and its his own mother! i spent hours on those cards and the one is a prototype for my cmas cards this year. here are the cards she bought and tell me if they are only worth $2
i need to remember that they are dutch and that is were copper wire came from, two dutch men fighting over a penny! ( not trying to hurt feelings here.)
A slap in the face is when you see your grandparents and they say "gee, you have gained some wieght"....yes it happened a couple of weeks ago...now that hurt;)
Seriously, you are lucky that family paid for a card, mine never has and I have never said anything to them about paying but they have never even offered.
Sorry about the hurt feelings, but your cards are drop-dead gorgeous! Just review all the positive posts on this thread about your work and let the rest roll off.
I sell cards, but I only charge my parents and grandmother $1 or $2 for each card (and they are all unique and intricate). It usually does pay for the supplies, which is helpful.
For any future cards you make for your grandmother, don't spend time decorating the envelope - she let you know that is not important to her.
It's really hard to not take the brush-off personally...I know I feel as if each card is one of my "children", and any criticism (spoken or implied) goes right to my heart. But I really doubt she meant it that way.
Chelsey, I'm impressed....17yrs old & you create beautiful cards!
I don't know that anyone can say anything to help ease your hurt feelings, except that sometimes family can be worse than your worst enemy. I'm sorry your gma treats you the way she does. As much as it bugs you, you have to let it go because it will just eat you up and you shouldn't let her have that kind of power over you. I'm sure most of us wishes we had a different [insert relative here] that would treat us the way we want to be treated.
You could get a basket to put your cards in & print out a little "sign" that says "Handcrafted Cards $3 each" and then when you are showing off your cards you can bring the basket out with the sign in it, there will be no question as to how much you charge. I know it's not about the money so much, it's about getting the recognition, after all, isn't that why almost everybody posts their creations on this site.....to get recognition?
Sometimes ppl don't think... I had an experience this weekend where if someone really had considered my feelings, she wouldn't have said what she said.. but again - it happens and I'm trying my best to make like a duck.
Your cards are most beautiful. I really like them, I added the guava one to my favs.
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BAHAHAAHH!!! (thinking of my Dutch relations...you got that bang on the money...hee hee...my DH's relatives, also Dutch...no hurt feelings here!)
Here too!!! My In-laws are Friesian (island off of Holland) and I have yet to receive a thank-you for all the cards I give them...every year for the last 18 years. So I feel your pain kiddo. But they're from a different generation and a different country. They express themselves differently. So don't take this too much to heart...and continue to share with your Grandma, or Oma. You will be the one blessed by the sharing.
I know how you feel. I made my father in law a really nice birthday card using the french script background and in the wild. I saw so many awesome cards that I decided to try my hand at it. Well I was really excited. Even Hubby said he liked it. So I give it to my father in law. He stares at it and my mother in law says what's the matter? He says in FRONT of everyone " I don't think that the background (french script) is appropriate. Meaning that it is not appropriat to be used for birthdays! I'm thinking who the ***** is he to tell me what is appropriate! My mother in law says I'm sure it's fine and looks at me to ask what it meant. I told her I didn't know. It's just a French background. So my father in law proceeds to say again that he doesn't think it was an appropriate for the occassion. I was sooooo mortified! I have yet to make my father in law a handmade card again. I make him general ones on the computer. So I do know how you feel.
It isn't always easy--especially in live situations, where you don't have an opportunity to anticipate all possible scenarios--to think about what one is saying or doing and how it may be interpreted, or, in some cases, mis-interpreted by others.
I don't know anyone who hasn't found themselves in such a situation, at least a time or two in life, and probably more than that, the longer they've lived. I know I certainly have! ;) I'd like to think that my friends and family who know me well, would forgive me, if I did say or do something less than perfect, and love me despite my faults.
I think it's pretty cool that your Grandmother expressed a desire to purchase your cards in the first place; you may not believe it, but it signifies that she valued the supplies and materials you put into their creation, even if she didn't have an understanding of the time and skill involved with creating hand-made cards.
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Chelsey you are truly an artist...they are so beautiful. I personally could not take money from my family to make them cards. I would feel so guilty. I hope things are okay between you two. I just lost my grandma recently and I do miss her. But I know where she is....
If it were my grandmother I would have told her she could have them free of charge immediately after she said she wanted to buy them. I wouldn't even have given her a chance to offer me the $6.
This is a slap in the face
