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Old 10-20-2013, 12:17 PM   #1  
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My die cuts pop out too easily and when I try to emboss them after cutting, the mats slip and push them from the die messing everything. What am I doing wrong? Any advice would be appreciated.
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My die cuts pop out too easily and when I try to emboss them after cutting, the mats slip and push them from the die messing everything. What am I doing wrong? Any advice would be appreciated.
I flip my clear plates upside down once they come out of the Big Shot after the cut. Then I slide the top one off. It usually works. Also try rubbing an embossing buddy (the kind you use on paper when heat embossing). It might help it slide off the plate better. I've had this same problem and had embossing lines way off, so I feel your pain!
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This is a relatively new thing. I don't remember it doing this so often. So either the machine changed or what I'm doing changed. I'm using a big kick with the proper spellbinder sandwich. My cuts needed to be "popped." From the die, now they fall out as I take the top plate off. The mats move them even more. Thanks for your response. At least I'm not alone.
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This is a relatively new thing. I don't remember it doing this so often. So either the machine changed or what I'm doing changed. I'm using a big kick with the proper spellbinder sandwich. My cuts needed to be "popped." From the die, now they fall out as I take the top plate off. The mats move them even more. Thanks for your response. At least I'm not alone.
Do you use these same dies a lot? Maybe they expand with use? Some of my dies have to be popped out and some slip out too readily too. Those that slip out are the ones I tend to leave between the clear plates and flip them over to try to keep them in. Maybe the new magnetic platforms would help with this issue
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Thanks I will keep experimenting.
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Could you be picking up some static somehow and this is making the paper cling to the clear plate when you lift it? Crazy thought maybe, but if you're experimenting maybe try rubbing your plates/pads with a dryer sheet?
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Could you be picking up some static somehow and this is making the paper cling to the clear plate when you lift it? Crazy thought maybe, but if you're experimenting maybe try rubbing your plates/pads with a dryer sheet?
Static happens a lot here, so I agree. That's why I suggested trying the embossing buddy. It just might do the trick.
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Good thought. I will try it. At first I thought my old plates were too cut up and groved, then the problem continued with new plates. But static makes sense. Will get to my creative dungeon later today. Thank you.
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My solution to this problem is to tape the die to the paper with re positional tape; I use the painter's tape from the dollar store - less sticky, low cost.

Make sure you tape on the outside of the die like you see in the photo attached because it will emboss and depending on the paper it might remove some paper when you pull off the tape.

Emboss the die first and the tape holds it in place while you switch to the cutting plate. Cut, pop it out and it's ready to use.

I cut small strips of the tape and keep on top of my die cut machine so it's handy and reuse until the stick of gone.
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I use a cuttlebug. What I do is put a piece of Kleenex/cereal box card board over the sandwich when I cut. This also embosses at the same time so I don't have to due a second sweep through the machine and this saves me a second steep.

You might have to work with this and add an extra piece of card stock to certain dies.

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I use a cuttlebug. What I do is put a piece of Kleenex/cereal box card board over the sandwich when I cut. This also embosses at the same time so I don't have to due a second sweep through the machine and this saves me a second steep.

You might have to work with this and add an extra piece of card stock to certain dies.

Hope my little trick helps you out!
I'm not sure why I forgot about this technique, but thanks for the reminder!
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Wow, I love time saving techniques. Thanks for the tip. Will try.
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I use a cuttlebug. What I do is put a piece of Kleenex/cereal box card board over the sandwich when I cut. This also embosses at the same time so I don't have to due a second sweep through the machine and this saves me a second steep.

You might have to work with this and add an extra piece of card stock to certain dies.

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I'm just lazzzzy when it comes to multiple passes so this sound wonderful - I'll give it a try - thanks for the idea
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I have a big shot with mpp and I turned my mpp over and diecut face up. This means I can slide the mpp out with the cutting plates on top and just drop down the tab I don't need for embossing without having to move the die or cutting plates. I lift off the top plate and put the emb mat in place.
I also tape my dies in place with felted scotch tape so if the die does move I can place it back exactly where it came from.
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I use a cuttlebug. What I do is put a piece of Kleenex/cereal box card board over the sandwich when I cut. This also embosses at the same time so I don't have to due a second sweep through the machine and this saves me a second steep.

You might have to work with this and add an extra piece of card stock to certain dies.

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I am new to die cutting, so I just want to be sure. Where in the sandwich do you put the cardboard?

Thanks for the time-saving tip!

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You may want to try the new magnetic platform by Sizzix. I don't have one (yet), but have used one and they are terrific. I don't think you would have any die sliding off the acrylic plate. The cardstock may still pop out, but if you used and extra shim so you can cut and emboss in one pass (which I also do all the time) I think your problem would be solved. :smile:
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I am new to die cutting, so I just want to be sure. Where in the sandwich do you put the cardboard?

Thanks for the time-saving tip!

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Not "IN" but ON/ OVER the entire sandwich :p
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I have a big shot with mpp and I turned my mpp over and diecut face up. This means I can slide the mpp out with the cutting plates on top and just drop down the tab I don't need for embossing without having to move the die or cutting plates. I lift off the top plate and put the emb mat in place.
I also tape my dies in place with felted scotch tape so if the die does move I can place it back exactly where it came from.
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What's mpp?
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I don't have a clue what mpp is and I can't figure it out like Muscat did. What is it?
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My guess would be multi purpose platform..and if I'm reading this right Kathleen turns the platform completely over and runs it through the machine with the dies up.
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Thanks to all of you. You not only helped with my problem, but made this a hot topic this week. ����������
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I just quit trying to emboss Spellbinders die cuts with the mat. I just cut them and keep the paper inside the die (or put it back in if falls out), turn it 'face down' and run a bone folder around the rim if I want a really strong edge line to show. This is for the simpler frames, nothing ornate.
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I just quit trying to emboss Spellbinders die cuts with the mat. I just cut them and keep the paper inside the die (or put it back in if falls out), turn it 'face down' and run a bone folder around the rim if I want a really strong edge line to show. This is for the simpler frames, nothing ornate.
Oh, I like this idea!
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Emboss the die first and the tape holds it in place while you switch to the cutting plate. Cut, pop it out and it's ready to use.
It never crossed my mind to do the embossing step first - I've always cut first. But yesterday I tried embossing first and it worked really well. I think I'll do that in future! Thanks, Roxie, for the hint!
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I was trying to emboss spellbinders in my Vagabond this weekend and no luck. I don't want to use a sandwich other than the one t!m holtz recommends because I don't want to break my machine.

I can't find my texturz plate (grr!!) so I just bought a new one and when I get it I'll try the sandwich t!m recommends for the Vagabond and see how that works. He says we need to use all Sizzix products with the Vagabond machine.
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It never crossed my mind to do the embossing step first - I've always cut first. But yesterday I tried embossing first and it worked really well. I think I'll do that in future! Thanks, Roxie, for the hint!
I had seen this idea on the web and never thought to use it until I was cutting 12 identical sets of panels for a class (I volunteer at a senior citizen home) and decided to use the last set of plates in the machine first to save time and liked the no mistakes of embossing first.

I did a search but can't find the video, I'm pretty sure it came from Cheery Lynn and I do know it was a man demonstrating.
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My solution to this problem is to tape the die to the paper with re positional tape; I use the painter's tape from the dollar store - less sticky, low cost.

Make sure you tape on the outside of the die like you see in the photo attached because it will emboss and depending on the paper it might remove some paper when you pull off the tape.

Emboss the die first and the tape holds it in place while you switch to the cutting plate. Cut, pop it out and it's ready to use.

I cut small strips of the tape and keep on top of my die cut machine so it's handy and reuse until the stick of gone.
I use Scotch removable tape to hold the die in place while I cut & emboss. I too "store" my strips tape on the top of the machine until they've lost their stickiness. Never thought to try embossing first. I'm going to have to give that a try. Thanks for the idea.
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