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Old 07-31-2012, 01:36 PM   #1  
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Default Archival ink - does it have an odor?

I want to start doing some coloring with markers. I cannot use Copics because of the odor. I am thinking of getting the Distress markers because they are water based and I am assuming they, like the Distress Inks, won't smell (I may be wrong about this; if so I'd love to know). But I can't use them with my Memento Black because Memento will run.

So, Stazon being off the table, the only other thing I can think of is archival, which is oil based. Before I buy and try, I thought i'd ask whether it has an odor to it. In anyone's opinion (which I know is subjective).
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Alternately - prismas and baby oil would be okay for me - baby oil being pretty innocuous - and might be my best bet for coloring. But my question then is whether you can do it on any cardstock or do you need to use something more substantial like watercolor paper.
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I've never noticed any unpleasant smell - and I work in sensory, so I think I have a pretty good sense of smell.
Does Memento run with water-based inks? I always thought it was OK, but I rarely use it. Versafine is great with water-based media ( I don't typically use markers, but I use regular watercolours, Twinkling H2Os and distress re-inkers) and shouldn't run at all. Versafine is my go-to ink, and no appreciable odour there, either.
I don't have enough experience with using baby oil to give an opinion. I do sometimes use the low-odour (so-called) Sansodor, and certainly unless the card is a reasonable weight it does bleed through a bit. But once it's matted, that's not a huge problem. Somebody else who more often uses this colouring technique would be better qualified to advise you there.
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Everyone says Memento runs with water-based inks. I have stamped with it and wet it and it does bleed, but I have not tried it with markers because I've not got any yet.
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I used prisma color pencils on regular paper and it was ok. This is a sample of the Walmart paper that I used prisma on. The only downside is that it takes longer to color with color pencils (it was faster with Copics) and the colors were brighter with Copics. You get softer colors with color pencils.
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Archival Inks are dye-based, and I haven't noticed any odor.
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Can I clean Archival Ink with my regular Stampin Up Stamping Mist?
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I use a permanent ink cleaner made by Judikins. I don't know if the SU cleaner will get all of the ink off your stamps. Some of my stamps are permanently stained, but that doesn't bother me. As long as the ink doesn't transfer to my other projects, it's OK that they are stained.
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I don't care if my stamps are stained, only if the ink residue will degrade them. I use both rubber and clear stamps.

I guess it won't, since Tim Holtz inks ALL his stamps with Archival Black and then lets it dry in order to "season" them. He feels he gets a better image that way. I have not had the courage to try it. It seems like it would have to mess up the stamps.

Any experience with Archival vs Versafine?
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VersaFine is an oil-based pigment ink that is water resistant. It works very well with fine-detail stamps and watercolors, but I don't like it with Copics.

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I don't care if my stamps are stained, only if the ink residue will degrade them. I use both rubber and clear stamps.

I guess it won't, since Tim Holtz inks ALL his stamps with Archival Black and then lets it dry in order to "season" them. He feels he gets a better image that way. I have not had the courage to try it. It seems like it would have to mess up the stamps.

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For me, dye (Archival) vs pigment (Versafine) is not the issue. Sounds like either will work well with water based markers. It's the oil base of the ink and whether I will tolerate it. Also the cleaning product needed. If I am okay with the ink, but I need something like a Stazon cleaner to remove it, then forget it.

I am such a delicate little flower. It's a nuisance.
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In my personal opinion, I don't get as black an image with the Archival as I do with Versafine. I've always thought the same about Memento too, and when I mentioned this before, some people agreed with that.
I've only ever used baby wipes to clean both those inks off my stamps .
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I use India Ink Black and notice no running, and no smell. I love this ink. Dries quickly & works fine for watercoloring or using markers.
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Can you get India ink in a pad? Where? I think of India ink and I think of bottles of ink, not pads...
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Oh, I just searched on it and see it's all over the place. What's your preferred brand?

And what do you use to clean it off your stamps?

Thanks! (I have a feeling I am about to start a black ink pad collection.)
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I've never noticed any odor with Archival ink (and I tend to notice such things). It cleans up easily with any regular stamp cleaner. I don't have the SU cleaner, but it doesn't require any strong specialty cleaner.
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I think there's only the one brand of India Ink. It's made by Stewart Superior. I just clean my stamps with a damp rag and water. Once in awhile I clean the rubber ones with a stamp cleaner to make sure they stay pliable, but nothing harsh. I've never had a problem, but I don't care if my stamps get stained as long as no color transfers. I've used a lot of different black inks, but this and VersaFine are my favorites. In fact, I keep my India Ink pad on my desk all the time.
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Funny you should ask this. The owner of the LSS where I teach recently bought a bunch of archival inks for the teachers to use. We keep all brands of inks in a plastic tote together. I noticed since she put the archival in the tote that there is an oder now when you open up the tote. The archival inks are the only new addition to the tote so it has to be them. I haven't used them so I don't know if there is a smell to them individually.
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